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Bachmann B1 or Ivatt 4

Discussion in 'Model Railways' started by lewis.maddox, Feb 16, 2010.

  1. lewis.maddox

    lewis.maddox New Member

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    I am looking for some reviews of Bachmann's B1 and Ivatt 4 No. 43106 as I am hoping to buy one of the mentioned soon. Info on running and reliability etc will be greatly appreciated. My layout is analogue (DC)

    Cheers for the help,

    Lewis
     
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    The ivatt 4 is a beautiful model, i had one until i was forced to sell my collection, ran as sweetly as i could of hoped, captures the look of the original perfectly. The bachmann B1 is a somewhat aged model, the chassis is hit and miss, some run well, others run badly. split frame design which in this modern world is a touch old fashioned. the body is not bad, but is not quite upto modern standards.
     
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    Thank you for your help :)
     
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    Pete Thornhill Part of the furniture Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    Would agree about the B1 -AVOID!!! The running qualities are too hit and miss and they were considered poor runners even at the time of first release. I recall that we used to have more B1's returned to us than any other model.
    The Ivatt is a nice model with no such problems in my experience.
     
  5. lewis.maddox

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    43106 it is then :)
     
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    My B1 was the same at first, though bizareyl, two years sitting sulking in it's box seems to have persuaded it to work better!.

    The Bachmann Split Chassis Motor in most cases i find preferable to more recent types, though i think the change from Five to Three Pole motors is the root cause, none the less B1 apart i found the split chassis loco's far more smoother and less tempremental than more recent Three Pole jobs.
     
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    That was the funny thing it was only the B1's that seemed to have the problem the rest always seemed to run well!
     
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    Oh i dunno, i had a J72 that ran like the proverbial bag of spanners.
     
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    Pete Thornhill Part of the furniture Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    I meant in general most ran well where as in the b1's case it was the other way round! Of course in both cases there were exceptions - aside from this I seem to remember the original Replica Railways B1 seemed to run ok!
     
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    I think the all time worst model was Airfix's 14xx.. but i'm showing a bit more age there.
     
  11. lewis.maddox

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    I agree, my Hornby 14xx was a bit of a 'non-runner'. Had to replace the whole chassis with one from Dapol!
     
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    The airfix chassis were bad, ive never had a problem with a hornby 14xx, mind you ive never had a dapol one!
     
  13. Not if you want to add a DCC decoder- then split chassis are an absolute PITA!
     
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    It's interesting, I had a B1 which ran faultlessly for years, never required anything more than lubrication. Do agree about the J72 though! Also had a jinty which was that poor it ended up being returned - along with a number of others from the same batch, according to the shopkeeper!
     
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