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Winter Cumbrian Mountain Express 2016

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by 61994, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. 61994

    61994 Member

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    RYTC have announced there WCME runs for 2016.
    First one is advertised as Manchester - Carlisle with 60103 (45407 & 44871 as back up)

    http://www.railwaytouring.net/uk-day-trips/winter-cumbrian-mountain-express-23-01-16

    Then 6 more running from London with the locomotive pool being 46115, 46100 & 46233

    http://www.railwaytouring.net/uk-day-trips/winter-cumbrian-mountain-express-2
     
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    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    How long for that first trip to sell out ;)
     
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    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    The NRM latest press release suggested the debut of 60103 would be in the spring on a KX to York?
     
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    Surprised me too. Unless they're looking for a lower-key trip first time out, just in case?
     
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    26D_M Part of the furniture

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    Or entice customers with the A3 then sub the fives for "operational reasons"? Shades of the Jubilee pairing that never was.
     
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    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    I think that probably the NRM and Ian Riley will know more about what Flying Scotsman's first run will be. Frankly I can't see it doing a steam charter for anyone else before the official launch although there are hints that something will happen before February.

    Doesn't the RTC have a track record of promising locomotives that are not available? That said, the publicity is unequivocal about the motive power so it must have been agreed.......
     
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    mike1522 Long Time Member Friend

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    I do question the mention of 6233 unless she is doing the later runs.
     
  8. Steamage

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    Indeed they do, Al! 46100 was trailed for several GB tours when she still in pieces, 6023 and 35018 have been suggested for regular trips since about this time last year, and even currently in-ticket locos have been advertised before the loco owners have agreed to anything. On the other hand, the NRM site listing the plans for 2016 says FS may appear in black undercoat on preserved lines and the main line for trials ahead of the inaugural run in February. Maybe MeltonNorth has discussed the possibility with Ian R, and maybe Ian has not said "no", but I wouldn't see it as anything more than an aspiration at this stage.
     
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    A big old con ! I will expect the black fives & nothing else :Spam:
     
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    Who knows the debut of 60103 might be as per NRM but 502 hauls the WCME? If it ain't black it ain't right after all.
     
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    No con, actually. Subject to the usual caveats of a loco coming off overhaul, it has been agreed by all parties that the 23/01 train from Manchester should by hauled by 'Flying Scotsman', as part of its mileage accumulation, prior to its official launch, in February.

    RTC are being up-front about this, by mentioning the reserve position of the two Black 5s, which would normally be expected for this annual event. Clearly, you can judge the likelihood for yourselves, from the regular updates from Mr Riley or the NRM.
     
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    Well, I hope I'm wrong !
     
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    Precisely....
     
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    Have we forgotten about the test runs at East Lancashire in December prior to the January 23rd wcme. Also the test around the Carnforth circle prior the same week. Ian is going to do this right no matter what. Today is September 9 that is late January.

    Same can be said about 46100 about today because that is 5 months away.
     
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    Good news, and thanks for the confirmation. Let's hope it comes together as planned.
     
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    First WCME of January im booked on as this will be part of my 22nd birthday.
     
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    I just thought that this thread would be a good one to move back to the front because prospects of 46100 are looking really good.
     
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    Apologies-hadn't spotted the date
     
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    That comment was moons ago, when the confirmation of the Scot's finish date wasn't fully confirmed! Happy to be proven wrong.
     
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    Whatever else happens with the WCME from Manchester, I think we already know that the first main line outing with Flying Scotsman will also involve a diesel so that those people responsible for the overhaul can be satisfied that it is fit for its full programme of work thereafter. A sensible decision, imo.
     

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