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Webb 17in Coal Engine 0-6-0

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    The LNWR 17in Coal Engine was a class of 0-6-0 steam tender engines designed by Francis Webb for the London and North Western Railway. They were simple locomotives and in UK service they were very reliable. "17in" refers to their cylinder diameter in inches. They were called "Coal Engines" because they were used for hauling coal trains
    he 17in Coal was the first new design of engine to be built by Webb since he became Chief Engineer of the LNWR in September 1871. A policy of 'low costs' was in force at the LNWR, with running costs per engine mile reduced from 10 3⁄4d per engine mile in 1857 to 73⁄4d by 1871. The first 17in Coal was constructed in 1873, the first of five hundred built. Ernest L. Ahrons is quoted as regarding the type as "probably the simplest and cheapest locomotives ever made in this country", and O.S. Nock described them as "splendid"
    Many aspects of the 17in Coal's design reflected John Ramsbottom's final design: the 0-6-0 Special Tank, including the identical wheel diameter and cylinder dimensions, but the new engines had a larger, improved boiler. In February 1878, one engine of this design was built from scratch in 25 1⁄2 hours.
    During the First World War the Railway Operating Division of the Royal Engineers took many Coal Engines for use overseas, including many to the British Expeditionary Force in France and 42 to the Palestine Military Railway. Those in Palestine were reported to have performed badly and Palestine Railways sold them all for scrap by 1922.[6] This may have been due partly to the poor quality of water used in Palestine.
    In the 1923 grouping 227 Coal Engines passed into LMS stock. 35 survived until the nationalisation of Britain's Railways in 1948 and entered British Railways stock. BR numbers were 58321-58361 (with gaps)





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  2. andrewshimmin

    andrewshimmin Well-Known Member

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    Thanks as always Neil. I think 8469 is an 18" goods (i.e. a Cauliflower).
     
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  3. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    It is, many thanks for spotting that, now moved to correct collection

    Neil
     
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  4. andrewshimmin

    andrewshimmin Well-Known Member

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    No problem - LNWR loco classification is fiendishly difficult at the best of times!
     
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  5. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I know its a nightmare with some of them, found another 3 incorrect ones in the collection

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