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UK Railtours - End of Southern Steam - 2017 Commemoratives

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Where's Mazeppa?, Nov 25, 2016.

  1. simon

    simon Resident of Nat Pres

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    Sorry but I have no idea what your column is. £450 includes food and a ticket with food these days is approx £250 on most rail tours.
     
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    That depends what you're doubling. Full dining service is over £200 on most steam railtours and not much below that on the purely diesel-hauled ones. Last year's Deltic-hauled trip to the SVR with the Pullmans was £395. Were there 1st and 2nd class Pullmans in the old days? AFAIK it's 1st class only these days. UKRT are running a business. They need to cover all their costs, including contingencies, and they may perhaps aim for a somewhat higher profit margin on an especially prestigious trip, but I don't regard it as a total rip-off. Some can afford it and some can't, but that goes for many things in life.
     
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    Double the cost of what? Standard class? For £450.00 you are the getting the Pullmans, brunch and a four course dinner. When you compare it to the cost of the Belmond Surrey Hill trips (£395.00 for around four and a half hours of steam haulage) you are getting an extra meal and much more steam mileage. Plus the added attraction of spending four hours at a major seaside resort rather than 20 minutes at Shalford.
    Bit of a dilemma, would love to film it but would also like to travel on it.
     
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    The Surrey Hills luncheon circuit on 31st March is £395 so why would you expect a run to Bournemouth and back on a significant anniversary date to be £150 cheaper?
     
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    If the return was also steam hauled from Bournemouth straight back up the mainline, I would willingly put my hand in my pocket but that really requires another loco. What a pity that the Swanage hasn't got its big turntable operating.
     
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    Even the premier dining on a diesel hauled excursion with WCR is in the £200 region, this weeks Barrow to Bath had 3 dining, one non dining, the buffet and 1 standard, so around 220 passengers of whom about half were dining. It's the way of rail tours these days....
     
  7. gricerdon

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    I obviously live in a different world to you well heeled lot. How many of you were actually there in 1967?
     
  8. simon

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    It's out of my price bracket, but as trains regular fill at that price then there are clearly those who can and will pay it. £250 is pushing it as far as I'm concerned, but again there is a ready market.The second part of your post is irrelevant to the discussion of price.
     
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    I was, as related above, but wouldn't fork out £900 for a rail trip, I'd expect a week's holiday somewhere warm for that. I've said £900 because you wouldn't travel alone so I would take the Director of Domestic Operations. I'll just be happy to photograph it.
     
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    I'd book it tonight for two of us .......but, will it be Clan Line? Hopefully she'll be back by then but, if not, we could end up with Tornado:(.
    Anything other than a Bulleid would be a waste of time and money.
     
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    Braunton would be the substitute I think but I'd trust the announcement by MNLPS they have always come up with the goods and 35028 is now in the reassembly stage.
     
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    I'd be happy with that.
     
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    Tornado would be a good choice on just about any other railtour but it has to be a Bulleid for the Belle. How about a Class 47? The final Belle was hauled by one after all. :D
     
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    Only through bloodymindedness of the powers that be, Nine Elms had a Merchant Navy prepared but Control would have none of it.
     
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    Pointing out the current cost of rail tours has nothing to do with being well heeled or not.
     
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    UKRT have already thought about that. For authenticity, part of the trip will be diesel hauled;).
     
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    I'm completely lost on the relevance of this. I wasn't there because I was 16 years away from being born. Should there be some special rate for people who happen to have turned up in 1967?
     
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    That price tag is about what I was expecting. By way of comparison, Bath with steam on the pullmans is £500. I assume that the trip on the 8th will be for enthusiasts.
     
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    I think that was what was being implied, yes.
     
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    I was expecting £488 for some reason, so £38 cheaper. Either way, it's not my bag, as there'd be no room for my e-Trex and paperwork at the table! If someone else does the paying, though...
     

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