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Tornado Naming

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by 4472, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. Spamcan55

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    Yorkshire Exile and Spamcan81:

    Thanks for your replies.

    Whatever people's views on TRHs being involved, it all adds to the publicity for the loco, which must be a Good Thing
     
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    a note to all those "republicans" get K*****D, thank you.
     
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    Mebbe re-site to cab interior would be a good compromise?
     
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    Fine by me! O:)

    I just like the fact I'm as near as dammit looking at a genuine brand new 1949 loco, and don't want to see anything that shouldn't be there.
     
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    I've got to agree with this fella, keep the naming plaque by all means, but nail it somewhere a bit more subtle, maybe somewhere in the cab.
     
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    Yes, the plaque needs moving. I cant help wondering why this locomotive has no facination to me?, then it came to me last night, whilst being a wonder of modern engineers, it has no history whatsoever. But a tribute to her engineers none the less.
     
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    What a sad comment

    Of course she has no history. She is history.

    For me its great to see something from my childhood re-incarnated - but even more - it reinforces in me that the reason you could cart me around the National network for evermore, and I couldn't raise an ounce of enthusiasm, is that in the 21st century the modern railway has lost all reason to engender enthusiasm.

    No prime movers that raise the hair on the back of your necks; no drivers being permitted to raise the game; no business managers allowed to show any creativity; everything being reduced to the lowest common denominator, and everything ruled by the corporate outlook or the deadhand of the DfT.

    I know now that if the A4s or Duchesses, or West Countries or Brits had been new in my time I would still have had the enthusiasm for these human scale fire breathing monsters - but oil burning boxes, let alone buses - no! other than Deltics and HSTs you can keep them all!
     
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    I very much doubt that looking *exactly* like a 1940s A1 is the main aim, at least it shouldn't be (granted, getting the period details right is a good idea). But no way should the naming plaque be buried inside the cab, it should be prominent on the engine, so that it does what it is supposed to do and actually inform the uninformed public that this is no run of the mill preseved engine, but a brand new one. It should possibly be moved to under the number cab side, if only because it distracts the eye when looking at the nameplates.
     
  10. 1X99

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    Definitely RAF Leeming and RAF Cottesmore, with Cottesmore on the 'starboard' side:


    RAF Cottesmore:

    Image of Crest
    Image of Plate

    RAF Leeming:

    Image of Crest
    Image of Plate

    On Tornado:

    Image of Cottesmore plate on the starboard side
     
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    Hey you guys she may be history as such - But a damn fine machine and an inspiration of one fine British locomotive!!! And that is hats of to the people who have made this as such!!! Tornado has some original features of the class on the footplate!!
     
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    She certainly has fascinated a lot of people around the world.
    I've had loads of my friends on the net who have seen news coverage in their own countries contacting me to ask about her.
    They want to know who built her, why did they, do it how did they do it and how many steam locos have we got. And most importantly can they see them or ride on steam trains if they come to the UK.
    So hats off to the A1 Trust for getting UK steam so much publicity around the world.
     
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    For those queerying
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    taken at the naming ceremony, so my apologies for image degradation due to smoke/steam and image noise due to 1600ISO and low light levels under the canopy.
     
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    See http://5944.fotopic.net/p56496359.html for a shot of the other side, i.e. RAF Cottesmore. Again, poor quality due to being zoomed in so much. Click on "full size" at the bottom for a clearer view.
     
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    Ok, I was stumped for a bit, due to the freight branch not appearing on Google maps, but, piecing together various pics and vids, can someone confirm this was the actual route of the train:

    york
    ulleskelf
    church fenton
    sherburn in elmet
    (direct via freight only line from burton salmon junc)
    castleford
    woodlesford
    leeds
    cross gates
    garforth
    east garforth
    micklefield
    church fenton
    ulleskelf
    york

    And, is this actually the same route as the green test run seen here:

    http://www.uksteam.info/tours/t09/t0128q.htm
     
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    It would seem that whenever a steam loco is to be used for a Royal train then a test run is carried out some time before. The previous one being on the Holyhead to Crewe run a few years back with 6233. The test run was actually a public run, I believe it was The Ynys Mon Express, and then after that 6233 was not used again before the event.
     
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    Ok..... Having seen the pictures, why is this plate any more 'annoying' than the one on gresley marking 112mph or the one on 48773?
     
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    No idea Ben. I don't have a problem with it. It can only generate even more good publicity and interest from Joe Public I'd have thought. Doesn't Evening Star have something similar on it's deflectors?
     
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    I don't think it is a problem or annoying. For myself I just think it would look a bit tidier round that area it the plaques were moved. The Tornado nameplates are large and distinctive. Mine is just an opinion, if they stay where they are, fair enough. They don't distract from the wonderful engineering masterpiece that the locomotive is.
     
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    I don't have a problem with the plaque. If 6233 can have crowns above her nameplate then Tornado can have a plaque
     

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