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SVR wagons 2018

Discussion in 'Heritage Rolling Stock' started by olly5764, Jan 7, 2018.

  1. Graham Phillips

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    I presume so. The grain certainly follows the curve.
     
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    I believe they were yes.
    And I remember the rollicking from the boss one day when me and a colleague were told to remove the rotten planks from an Open B while he nipped home for his lunch. When he returned he found a bare frame. "I told you to only remove the rotten ones!" My colleague and I looked at each other before replying that we had!
     
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    It's that time of week again folks.
    We should find out this week if Graham's plywood bending has worked, as the new wooden roof hoops for 101961 have been sat in the goods shed setting for a few days now.
    2302 is now completely devoid of roof canvas, with the roof hoops getting a clean and a sand down (The outer roof hoops on this are wood rather than the usual steel.) and the outside on the river side and ends is now all in undercoat, apart from the bits that will need repair or replacement.
    After weeks of slow but steady progress making a pile of parts for the conflat's brake gear, the two sets that were dropped off the river side last week have been repaired, re-drilled and reamed, new pins fitted and the whole lot re-hung ready for painting while the rock side has been dropped off, the nessecary welding has been done, with a little bit of cutting and grinding and a not insignificant amount of drilling these will be back in place very soon. Hopefully I will be able to get to Bewdley in the week, to get the drilling and reaming done and the job finished.
    There won't be an update next week I'm afraid, as so long as my money holds up well enough I'll be off to Buckfastleigh for the weekend, so I'll see you in a couple of weeks,
    Olly
     
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    Thanks for the updates Olly and enjoy your hols!


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    Apologies this is longer than I expected, 'cos images

    hmmm. using plywood for roof sticks, would not be my first choice of method.
    because ...
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    prob - delamination
    par StoneRoad2013, on Ipernity
    A better alternative - compared shaping from solid (or steaming) - is to laminate with thin strips of timber ... I do this for carriages or boats out of sapele (usually) ...
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    BC - bodywork
    par StoneRoad2013, on Ipernity
    finished results ...
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    No.25 - light fitting
    par StoneRoad2013, on ipernity
     
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    Do the lamination layers show through if the roof hoop is stained rather than painted?

    Thanks


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    They can do, it depends on the grain pattern and how well the stain does ( or doesn't !) soak into the timber.
    Over-sanding can "dish" the surface of slightly softer areas in the wood, and that alters the reflections of the finish (varnish or paint).

    Both of these potential problems can be reduced by taking additional care with "grain matching" before and other precautions when gluing up.
     
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    Thanks - this thread has been very educational :)


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    @ghost - I've been involved with various sorts of restoration / heritage for most of my life, but there have been several points in this thread that cleared up a few things for me, and one or two that I hadn't come across in the past couple of decades when I've been most heavily involved with carriages and the like ...
    Basically, glad to have been of help and you are Never Too Old To Learn !
     
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    I love that van. It's just cute!
     
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    I've seen it like that quite a few times, during a paint shop shunt with the Ruston, when there's usually been a few, "could you just move these..." requests. The last time was on 6th January. It was bloody cold!
    I've been through that shed on a Pannier a few years ago. That was brilliant!
    Keep the updates coming.
     
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    Yes, I see it quite often too. Lol
     
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    I used ply for the first one because we had some 4mm ply left over from the lining of the Southern brake van. I used some tile laths that I had left over at home for the other two. They're very coarse grained and a bit knotty, but good enough for this job.
    One thing I would do differently next time is thickness them all. I cut the laths down on the band saw to about 5mm, but a couple of them went a bit wobbly so I ran them through the thicknesser. I think I'd have been better off cutting them all to 6mm and skimming 0.5mm off both faces to get them all accurate.
    What with the variations in total thickness of the multiple layers and the inaccuracies of the curves on the formers, some bits ended up clamped tighter than others. I think making one of the formers in smaller sections and using more clamps would help.
     
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    You can never have too many clamps (well, almost never) and this isn't a roof stick lamination, but the same principle applies !
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    BM CV - underframe clamped
    par StoneRoad2013, on Ipernity

    e2a - will be completely concealed, so we didn't use our normal plywood bits to prevent dents.
     
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    I'm back after my weekend away last week in Buckfastleigh.
    They tell me that I am not allowed to find problems just challenges, in which case, one or two challenges have presented themselves this week.
    The sign writing has started on the conflat, however, the cold weather which we are forecast this week will most likely put that on hold. Underneath this vehical we discovered our first challenge of the weekend. A routine pads exam discovered contamination in the oil which will require further examination and probably a lift.
    In the goods shed, the doors on 2303 have less and less tree on them every time I look. Underneath the wagon, a brief exam has revealed some tired brake drop links and hangers. Hopefully while the doors are being done many of the parts under here can be attended too and new parts produced.
    101961 also had an examination of HER brake gear and was found to be in generally good order, hopefully the few worn parts can be replaced using bits left over from the conflat, or recycled parts from 2303, either of which will save some time and material.
    On the back burner at the moment is the SECR wagon, however material has been requested for two new brake push rods, while other parts will be chipped away at as time and weather permits.
    On the other side of the fence, we have some fitness to run Exams to do on the serviceble wagons. This is a long winded but essential process which not only checks the vehicals are still safe to run, but highlites wagons which need more careful monitoring. There is of course paperwork linked to this. A necessary evil these days. Let's hope we don't find anything unexpected.
     
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    Must add, I'm actually there doing FTR exams this morning, in the snow.
     
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    I trust youhave your thermals on:Saywhat:
     
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    Far too cold for me, even with thermals and a beast of a workshop heater.
    Luckily, I can work from home for most of this week.
     
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    It takes more than a bit of snow to stop us (although it did bring things to a crawl)
    No work has been carried out on the existing projects do far this week although the fitness to run Exams have inched forward on the serviceble wagons, which so far has revealed nothing unexpected, however, with just one man, battling alone in the snow and around other commitments, progress has been slow.
     
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