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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by acorb, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    there is a point though , the railway has had fabulous publicity with the FA Cup and now this . by April the risk is people will have moved on . Timing is everything and I understand the why the railway is not running
     
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    It's only for a few months, and if I was that desperate to see a rebuilt light pacific in green during that time, there's always Eddystone...
     
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    Some rather predictable and rather tiresome responses on here and across social media channels , from the burning the membership card brigade , Have a laugh at the railways expense (lamentably from some of its own self proclaimed supporters) to I suspect a few calling for heads to roll .

    Its a coat of paint that, who knows the owner maybe funding , to mark a very special occasion in british history . It puts the SVR into the national media for a good news story and probably buys coverage that you wouldn't otherwise ever pay for . By the autumn it is back into BR livery and alls well again
     
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    Surely there can only be one name now?

    'BARNEY'

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    'Purple dinosaur class'

    On the scrolls...
     
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    Are we not allowed to express our opinions if we don't like it then?
     
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    TV does seem to be subject to the colourful treatment more than most, whether it be real or April Fools...

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    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    that is a response that cuts both ways as you object to my point . Conversation is the spice of life , lame old jokes and burning at the stake , it would be nice to move on from
     
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    Thanks Patrick but I did say that footfall "Will increase". The Return on Marketing Investment (Which I assume you mean by ROMI) must be good, as the cost of the extra repaint back to Green will be significantly less than the £20K hinted at and the spend, which has already generated such interest on here and elsewhere, is so far, very small.
     
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    There was a photoshopped image, elsewhere on our forum, of a detuned Bulleid, minus deflectors, which I'll probably need in a minute. It was in LMS crimson. Once I'd climbed down from the ceiling and wiped the foam from my chin, I had to admit (though only to myself) that it actually didn't look at all bad.
     
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    So who will be turned away? A few enthusiasts may be put off, but would you not attend the railway because of it?
    It was OK in red, a few months in purple will not hurt. There are more authentic Bulleid liveries I dislike than this proposal.
    Anybody got a rake of Pilkington coaches to put behind it?
     
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    looks like it will been first seen at Steam Gala at end of April
     
  12. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

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    Well 34027 does have form for an unauthentic colour scheme. Here's my take on it when on the GCR in 2001 01-1-29 9a 34027 copy copy.jpg

    Peter
     
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    Purple... But where does the name "Porterbrook" fit in with the Jubilee?!

    Richard.;)
     
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    Just another thought - Yes, I know, 2 in five minutes is scary!

    Wouldn't it be nice to paint 5596 / 5690 / 5699 in black & chrome, and name it "Platinum Jubilee" for a while?

    Richard.
     
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    The last "Mission Impossible" film shoot got half way there! :)
     
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    You me
    You mean like this? Not 5596, nor 5690, nor 5699 but 5593 on the GC in 1995
    95-2-12 4 5552 copy.jpg

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    Yep, something like that would do nicely! As there are currently 3 Mainline certified 5Xs at present, I wonder if anyone's considered it? A certain Mr. Smith likes re-naming and re-numbering 5699...

    Richard.
     
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    I guess if you were smart you might make historical reference to how this just continues a railway tradition of bespoke liveries to celebrate notable jubilees ...

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    Tom
     
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    No worries.

    The £20k (if accurate) is repaints green > purple > green, which wouldn't be far out. A single repaint was £8k around a decade ago.

    You said it "will increase the footfall/income of the SVR. When the locomotive actually appears there will be even more", a two-stage increase. That's unproven. I'm pointing out the first phase increase can't be before April as there aren't any trains, and as @Sidmouth says February's publicity may have dissipated. I'm also saying the second stage from ~June isn't guaranteed. SVR's net profit margin has traditionally been around 2% of revenue, appreciating you're here talking of marginal costs I suspect the ROMI will be whatever one wants it to be, and probably isn't measurable. Personally, I'll avoid it.
     
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    Wow, nothing like a coat of paint to stir up a hornets nest!! My thoughts and hopefully a sense of perspective.
    -it is temporary and TV is due a repaint anyway.
    -it cashes in on this country's obsession with the Royal family (not something I understand, but I can see the appeal, especially to tourists).
    -no, there currently aren't any trains, but bookings are open from April onwards. If someone sees the SVR on the telly and then checks out the website, it's a good way to a booking.
    -it has the owners' full support.
    -there are a number of other 'correct' Southern Pacifics about if you really need to see one.
    -if the idea of a purple loco really offends you, visit a different day when it isn't running or avert your gaze - the SVR publishes it's loco roster fully on advance.
    -the SVR will shortly be providing a newly restored GWR Hall on full rake of beautifully restored Great Western stock.

    If a publicity stunt helps pay for the last item as far as I'm concerned, job done.

    Personally I think it's a good bit of fun and I wish the SVR the best of luck with it. My prediction is that the SVR will get a lot of publicity from this.

    **As has been pointed out thanks to JK Rowling this isn't actually inappropriate for Taw Valley, but technically that was EWS maroon, not purple.. Perhaps we could argue over the shade?.. **
     
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