If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

SVR Autumn Steam Gala 16th-19th September

Discussion in 'Galas and Events' started by Kje7812, Aug 10, 2021.

  1. D1039

    D1039 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    May 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,728
    Likes Received:
    2,516
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    North Somerset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Not according to National Statistics' national flu and COVID-19 surveillance reports

    Why? Some have noted infections, hospitalisations and deaths are rising despite vaccination and tourism, music festivals, sport and reduced vaccine effectiveness might be contributing. Hospitalisations are again rising for older as well as younger groups. Some vaccinated countries such as Israel are entering a fourth wave.

    Leaving aside people don't need government permission to be worried about something, that's not in fact quite what the government is saying:

    "The government expects and recommends that people wear face coverings in crowded and enclosed areas where you come into contact with people you do not normally meet, such as public transport."

    "You may choose to limit the close contact you have with people you do not usually live with. "

    "It is important to consider that others may wish to take a more cautious approach as we open up. We should all be considerate of this and provide the opportunity and space for others to reduce close contacts if they wish."

    The government also has guidance on protecting people defined on medical grounds as extremely vulnerable, as some posters have raised.

    Also, just because it's not legally mandated doesn't mean businesses can't have it as part of their own terms of trade (think of dress codes, for example, or heritage railways' conditions of travel). Some businesses in retail and hospitality have chosen to continue mask wearing, distancing and table service as a condition of entry, to protect their staff and to reduce the chance of having to close their business. You can't be prosecuted for not doing following their rules, but you can be refused entry/service.

    Leaving all that aside, it's up to each railway to balance the risks to their staff and volunteers, passengers and businesses.

    Patrick
     
  2. 7822WelshSteam

    7822WelshSteam Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    643
    Likes Received:
    96
    In that case, we'll never go back to normal. The world won't be worth living in, anyway.
     
  3. Platform 3

    Platform 3 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2015
    Messages:
    807
    Likes Received:
    1,062
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Because I don't require Government permission to worry about something. I have followed the science closely, including what the Government's scientific advisors have said, and at the moment, despite being double vaccinated, I don't particularly want to be in very crowded indoor spaces for long periods of time unless others are masked, which I suspect they won't be.

    Ignoring the Covid point, I have never enjoyed the insanely crowded trains at some galas, and the SVR has generally proved one of the worst for this. The Spring Gala this year was therefore perfect for me. I paid a premium but got a superior product as a consequence for my wants, which is space and no worries about getting a seat. At a railway with less crowded galas I would probably be far less bothered about the loss of such a service. If that means that I won't go back to the SVR gala this year then, given my last visit for a 'standard' gala in 2019 was very disappointing, I'll deal with that.



    Sent from my SM-G770F using Tapatalk
     
    green five and 3ABescot like this.
  4. 3ABescot

    3ABescot Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    389
    Location:
    Herefordshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    We would almost certainly be nearer normal had the government not reduced limits everyone the restrictions were working. UK figures for new infections: Screenshot_20210824_092110.jpg
     
  5. tom105

    tom105 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2021
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Southampton
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Pannier 6466 announced for the gala
     
    Ben Jenden likes this.
  6. Ben Jenden

    Ben Jenden Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2019
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    252
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Croydon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer

    Sorry can't resist *9466
     
  7. tom105

    tom105 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2021
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Southampton
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    oops yeah its that! :)!
     
  8. Ben Jenden

    Ben Jenden Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2019
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    252
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Croydon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The website has been updated. 9466 is no longer due to double head with 1501....mainly probably because of the weight limits. Should be a good event.
     
    Paul42 likes this.
  9. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    11,816
    Likes Received:
    7,535
    Occupation:
    Nosy aren’t you?
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I think they may have double headed way back in 1997 at the very short notice Pannier Tank weekend before the Autumn Gala that year. I could well be wrong though. (It was nearly 25 years ago :))
     
  10. Bikermike

    Bikermike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2020
    Messages:
    1,038
    Likes Received:
    1,089
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Thameslink territory
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Typical GW standardisation... turn it upside down and it's a new class...

    As a random data point, we didn't do the SVR as the trains only seemed to be all day duration. The small person only has the patience for a short trip we tend to do a trip from Bridgnorth to Arley and look round the engine house and back an hour later. Clearly the SVR has to do risk balancing, but that is the sort of trade lost by following the covid-max lines.
     
  11. acorb

    acorb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,857
    Likes Received:
    1,569
    Location:
    Powys
    Both Wales and Scotland are warning today that some restrictions may need to be reintroduced owing to the sharp rise in cases and hospitalisations. Scotland's schools went back 2 weeks ago and today it has recorded its highest daily case rate ever. Wales is stating it is watching Scotland closely. England and Wales' schools return next week - I honestly hope the SVR have called this correctly.
     
    3ABescot, D1039 and green five like this.
  12. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    3,572
    Likes Received:
    2,823
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Swanage
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Indeed the BBC mentioned the comaprison to last year last week.
    Yes I agree more is open, masks are "optional" which appears to mean virtually no one wears one and we have the Delta variant.
    But
    August 20 2020 1202 new cases 6 deaths
    August 20 2021 37235 new cases 115 deaths

    We may be learning to live with it but things will get worse I suspect.
    On the ONS figures of 1 in 85 have Covid that means about 4 to 5 on an average gala train, not bad with fixed seating, less good when endless changing over during the day.
     
    green five, 3ABescot and acorb like this.
  13. Paul42

    Paul42 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    5,195
    Likes Received:
    2,108
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    East Grinstead
    Ben Jenden and D1039 like this.
  14. Ben Jenden

    Ben Jenden Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2019
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    252
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Croydon
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
  15. gricerdon

    gricerdon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    1,070
    Likes Received:
    497
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gricer and Grandad
    Location:
    Wallers Ash
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer

    I agree so will give it a miss this year
     
    green five likes this.
  16. 6026 King John

    6026 King John Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,322
    Likes Received:
    512
    Location:
    Hampton Court, Surrey
    I thought 43106 was part of the lineup but it seems to have disappeared - could there be a third visitor?
     
  17. Kje7812

    Kje7812 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2010
    Messages:
    2,323
    Likes Received:
    717
    Location:
    Kidderminster/ Cardiff
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    At one point, the marketing was 'at least two guests'. So maybe
     
  18. Paul42

    Paul42 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    5,195
    Likes Received:
    2,108
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    East Grinstead
    I suspect so.
    They usually have a loco as spare so will that be 43106 ?
     
  19. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    6,536
    Likes Received:
    4,219
    It was originally down for overnights & 1501 was due to double head of course but is now on the overnight services instead.
     
  20. D1039

    D1039 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    May 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,728
    Likes Received:
    2,516
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    North Somerset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The website has been changed and no longer mentions limits on tickets and the need to book ahead to guarantee admission.

    “Our Autumn Steam Gala is back to normal!”

    “Tickets may be pre-booked or purchased on the day”

    “When booking, please select your starting station when pre-booking tickets. However, you can start your day at ANY station.
    Tickets can be pre-booked but will also be available on the day from booking offices”.

    “Normal booking conditions and terms of travel apply”

    Patrick

    P.S. normal shareholder travel passes validity isn’t back to normal


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     

Share This Page