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Surviving nineteenth century standard gauge locomotives

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Jamessquared, Jul 27, 2016.

  1. andrewshimmin

    andrewshimmin Well-Known Member

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    Those are all much more modern than I was thinking of, really...
     
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    ...but entirely splendid, I should have added.
    In fact, Terriers are always somehow much more modern a design than their actual build dates would suggest, as Tom has said somewhere before.
    And while of course "wouldn't it be nice" I think one (or two) older loco/trains would be unique enough to draw income. Clearly wouldn't work if everyone had one, but little chance of that - not while you can use a class 8 goods loco running tender first, anyway...
    Happily enough, older ex-mainline types such as 2-4-0 often did end up on branch trains.
    It will never happen, but two Irish types I would recreate with my own first few million would be the MGWR K class 2-4-0 and as mentioned above the WTR 2-2-2T. What beauties!
     
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    Thanks for posting this - most interesting. Forty years ago I was part of the group of volunteers who cosmetically restored the loco at the NRM for the Transport Trust. Here are a couple of pictures from that time, showing the Tuesday night team at work in what is now called Station Hall, and the almost completed loco alongside the replica Rocket just prior to it leaving for Canterbury in May 1980

    Peter James
     

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    Fascinating photos - makes a change from large engines and Mk.1's. I am glad you liked the link and rewarded me with these photos.;)
     
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    Wylam Dilly is 5ft gauge
     
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    The E4 happily puffing away to and from RAF Henlow comes to mind :)
     
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    Fairy Queen , built by Kitsons for the East India Railway Co. in 1855 .
    British built , standard gauge and still used occasionally .
    reputedly the oldest std gauge loco in working order
     
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    Thought she was broad gauge (5ft 6)
     
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    i'm not sure tbh.

    just checked - you're correct
     
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    For which reason I've always thought building a 'working copy' of an engine that will not steam again has legs as an idea. It needn't be exactly the same - you could build a GER T14 2-4-0 express using the E4 as a guide, for example.
     
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    The further we get from any design, the more likely it becomes that not just engineering features, but even materials themselves will have been superseded ..... which raises the old chestnut ... how faithfully should such a design be followed? Are we to be in the business of recreating any design, or creating what some would doubtless deride as a looky-likey?

    For instance, were the Bluebell to decide dear old 488/30583 needed excessive replacement and go for a new build, should they follow the original as closely as humanly possible, or 'breathe' on the Adams design, to give a loco probably better suited to current operational needs?

    Personally, I think the L&B struck a good balance with Lyn, which while looking like the original, seems to have impressed just about everyone with it's performance.
     
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    Not a new build, but 71000 is another example of the design being improved upon in preservation when the opportunity was taken to put right some design faults
     
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    I thought some (but maybe not all) of 71000's improvements are now being removed or replaced by by original components as the improvements were found not to be so beneficial after all.

    Peter
     
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    When 71000 was first restored the major cock-up found was that the ashpan damper doors were not to drawing. This was rectified and made a massive difference to the steaming of the loco.
     
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    I seem to recall that the blast pipe was found to be incorrect as well.
     
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    Any GER type would get my vote
     
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