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Strange wagon plate

Discussion in 'Railwayana' started by Ploughman, Apr 12, 2023.

  1. Ploughman

    Ploughman Part of the furniture

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    A friend of mine was given this plate.
    Can anyone explain the obvious difference to a normal Wagon Plate?

    It is a complete mystery as I cannot identify it in either my LNER or BR wagon books.
    I’m guessing it must be a four -wheel hopper wagon

    No idea if the paint is original or not.
    Why the 4 boltholes?


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    No one got any ideas as to why it is made of brass?
    I do not think it is a fake or replica, knowing the ownership for the last 30 years or more.
     
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    The quality of the cast looks exceedingly poor, almost as if someone has used an existing wagon plate as a pattern to make a brass one. For what reason, I can't suggest.
     
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    https://www.easyliveauction.com/cat...9357e7ef448a6646f/railwayana-auction-lot-220/

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    https://www.madmantiques.co.uk/webs...on-wagon-d-plate-standard-21-tons-1947-steam/

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    The vast majority online seem to be like that, with L.N.E.R. However, I've found these...

    https://www.gwra.co.uk/auctions/lner-d-wagonplate-together-track-circuit-plate-lne-2019apr-0545.html

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    https://www.lot-art.com/auction-lot...092-anot/1289-variou_railway-22.7.21-fielding

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    which match with L N E R and the deformed 3 at the start of the number. Numbers indicate the same batch as well.

    Definitely a 21T hopper.

    https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnerhopper21ton/h35e87b32

    As to why it's brass, no idea! Plated by someone? The two round holes aren't original, and they're not level either.
     
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    Prob. Repro. but as already asked, why?
    Or..... was there an exhibition around that time that included a 21T hopper wagon.
    The railways did like to bull up exhibited items and that might include worksplates etc.
    Just a thought.
     
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