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Robinson GCR Loco designs

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added a lot of new photos featuring Robinson designs of the GCR/LNER
    This collection features Robinson C13 + C14 Atlantic Tank EngineS
    Introduced in 1903, the C13 (GCR Class 9K) was Robinson's first suburban tank design; and is usually considered to be one of his most successful designs. The C13 was based on Pollitt's F2 2-4-2T design, but with a longer firebox and a longer smokebox. The firebox was also deeper, and the boiler lengthened slightly. Interestingly, the saturated C13s closely resembled the smaller 4-4-2Ts which Robinson had previously built for the Waterford Limerick & Western Railway in Ireland. In 1907, the Great Central Railway (GCR) took delivery of twelve 4-4-2T locomotives from Beyer, Peacock & Co. to the same basic design of the 1903-5 Class 9L (LNER Class C13)., but with wider side tanks and larger bunkers. These were given the designation of Class 9L by the GCR, and Class C14 by the LNER.

    Including this photo of
    67439 Sheffield Victoria September 1958
    https://tinyurl.com/5n8sjyjn

    Full collection starts here with
    LNER era but locos still with GCR cast numberplates on cab side
    18 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/n58b6rah
    LNER era proper
    5018 Trafford Park May 1935
    https://tinyurl.com/mr3jnyzb
    to
    7425
    https://tinyurl.com/47ce87zx

    B.R. era starts here with
    67420 at Chesham 13th July 1954
    https://tinyurl.com/44pwtdye
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    67451 under the wires unknown location
    htts://tinyurl.com/4ysuy6jp

    Neil
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added a lot of new photos featuring Robinson designs of the GCR/LNER
    This collection features Robinson Class D9 (GCR Classes 11B, 11C, & 11D) 4-4-0 Locomotives
    Within a year of becoming the Great Central Railway's (GCR) Locomotive Engineer, Robinson initiated an extensive programme of locomotive construction and modernisation. The programme started with his Class 9J 0-6-0 (LNER J11) and Class 11B 4-4-0 in 1901. Set against this programme of modernisation, the 11B locomotives turned out to be a throw-back to Parker's earlier Class 11 (LNER D5) design. The 11B had a similar cylinder layout to Pollitt's Class 11A (LNER D6), but replaced the piston valves with slide valves. Although the use of slide valves appears to have been a step backwards, it should be remembered that the D6s were still having a number of piston valve problems which were yet to be eradicated. As such, Robinson was clearly choosing a proven design over a promising but still problematic one. A total of forty 11Bs were built in four batches between 1901 and 1904. Sharp Stewart & Co. built the first three batches, and Vulcan Foundry built the last. Of the forty D9s, only four ever received names. No. 1014 Sir Alexander was named after the GCR's Chairman Alexander Henderson in 1902, after he received a baronetcy. The name was removed in 1913, when a D10 was named Sir Alexander Henderson. The remaining three named D9s were named after royalty, and kept their names until they were withdrawn from service
    6021 Queen Mary Mexborough September 1936
    https://tinyurl.com/mr3xun93

    GCR era photos start here
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    https://tinyurl.com/4f9cd8e4

    B.R. era photos start here
    https://tinyurl.com/4jway2zb

    Neil
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    The GCR Class 9J (LNER Class J11) was a class of 174 0-6-0 steam locomotives designed by John G. Robinson for freight work on the Great Central Railway (GCR) in 1901.
    They passed to the London and North Eastern Railway (LNER) in 1923. The LNER classified them as J11 with sub-classes J11/1 to J11/5 because of detail differences.
    The whole class survived into British Railways (BR) ownership in 1948 and their BR numbers were 64280–64453. All had been withdrawn and scrapped by 1962
    Including this colour photo of
    64354 unknown location with the LCGB 'The Midland Limited' rail tour 14th October 1962
    https://tinyurl.com/pt7pnjp3

    75 new photos starting here with
    LNER era
    5287 at Retford G.C.R. shed
    https://tinyurl.com/2p8e4kvd
    to
    6119 Retford 3rd July 1932
    https://tinyurl.com/5mnxthrc

    B.R. era
    64283 Retford G.C.13th May 1956
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    64451 Retford 9th September 1951
    https://tinyurl.com/53jb89eu

    Neil
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added a new collection of photos featuring Robinson Q4 (GCR Class 8A) 0-8-0
    The Great Central Railway (GCR) Class 8A was a class of 0-8-0 steam locomotive built between 1902 and 1911 for handling heavy coal trains over the Pennines. They all passed to the LNER in 1923, who redesignated them Class Q4. They were withdrawn from service between 1934 and 1951.

    Including this photo of
    63200 Ardsley June 1949
    https://tinyurl.com/hzw3p6z8

    GCR era photos start here
    39 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/4bp9c67p
    LNER era photos start here
    3224 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/4hc4kkz8
    B.R. era photos start here
    63200 unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/ubb5s4vj

    Neil
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added a new photo to the collection of photos featuring Robinson S1 & Gresley booster fitted S1/3

    Robinson designed these powerful 0-8-4 tank locomotives in 1907 for hump shunting the newly opened Wath-on-Dearne marshalling yard in South Yorkshire. Initially, four were built between 1907 and 1908. Robinson based the S1 on his 8-coupled tender engines (LNER Q4), but had three cylinders for smooth powerful uphill shunting. Due to the extra cylinder, a slightly wider boiler was fitted. Power reversing gear was also fitted due to the constant reversing experienced in a busy marshalling yard. These engines were generally successful, although sometimes two were needed together to shunt the heaviest trains in wet weather. Hence in 1930, Gresley tried fitting a booster to the trailing bogie. Boosters apply extra power at very slow speeds, and are usually used for starting heavy loads. Due to these being shunters, the S1 boosters were unusual because they were reversible (ie. applied power in both directions). Due to the required replacement of the complete bogie, it was considered economical to build new engines for the boosters. Hence, one locomotive (No. 6171) had a booster fitted, and two new locomotives were built with boosters in 1932. The unmodified engines were designated S1/1, whilst No. 6171 (modified) became S1/2, and the two new engines became S1/3.

    2799 Mexborough 1933 fitted with Gresley booster (removed in 1943) Gresley S1-3 0-8-4T development of Robinson S1 class
    https://tinyurl.com/zdjyr8x6

    Neil
     
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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have a collection of new photos of Robinson L1 later reclassified L3 (GCR Class 1B) 2-6-4T Locomotives
    The GCR Class 1B was a class of 2-6-4T (tank) locomotives on the Great Central Railway. They were notable as the first locomotives of the 2-6-4T wheel arrangement to be used by a British standard-gauge railway; there had been two narrow-gauge examples on the Leek & Manifold Valley Light Railway since 1904.
    In 1945, the L1s were reclassified as Class L3 to make room for the new Thompson L1 2-6-4T class.
    The first L1 was withdrawn in 1947. The remaining nineteen locomotives survived into British Railways ownership and were withdrawn between 1949 and 1955

    Just 4 new photos in this collection
    69061 Aylesbury 1960
    https://tinyurl.com/mpj6pzb9

    Neil.
     

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