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Pink engine?!

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by City of truro fan, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. tor-cyan

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    Fireball XL5 is powered by a "nutomic" reactor
    Stingray is powered by nuclear powered hydrojets
    Thunder Birds 1&2 are powered by variable-cycle gas turbine engines, 3 by chemical boosters and ion drive in space, and 4 by turbine impellers.
    the only crafts to be nuclear powered were the FireFlash the hypersonic passenger airliner and the ocean going tanker Ocean Pioneer.
    Given the reactor shielding in the FireFlash broke down after 3 hours not a ringing endorsement of the nuclear technology used .
    Captain Scarlet most vehicles are fuel powered But it is hinted at that Cloud base is nuclear powered.
    So given at the Time these programmes were being made atomic energy was going to be powering our future, the Andersons thought differently
    Geek mode to standby

    FAB

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    To say it worked isn't the same as saying it worked efficiently and being better than 36001, let's face it, ain't too difficult! Having re-read that fascinating article, the factors mitigating against such machines were the undue complexity (and associated costs) and a comparatively poor power/weight ratio. TBH, the "con" argument about triple manning seems a bit of a red herring. To my mind, the fact that railway managements, before the advent of widespread superheating and long travel valves, evidently didn't regard the concept as worth developing speaks volumes.
     
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    Matt37401 Part of the furniture

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    F5D582BD-AC55-4D05-B16C-E507488B951D.jpeg Or just use one of these?
     
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    Big ED would be my preference. Or couple a 71 & a 74 together, blow all the breakers when on the juice, booster set on the 71 for gapping, diesel on the 74 for shunting.

    I seem to recall that if a big ED drew full power taking a boat train out of Southampton docks while a REP was in the same supply section, then the breakers would blow and neither could move. Max current rail index 16, REP drew 14? and 74 also drew 14.
     
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    It's awful, looks like one of those 'toy' engines that you see on children's roundabouts, now the Porterbrook Deltic is fabulous, but only because it such an imposing loco and it is capable of carrying that colour.
     
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    Nice isn't it.

    Maybe there is a new build genre for ideas that were ahead of their time.

    On the subject of liveries. The Sludge colour that WCR uses has to be one of the worst.
     
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    Did 71s have boosters? I thought that was the predecessor, CC1 - CC3 (or 20001-20003 in BTC numbering)
    http://www.bulleidlocos.org.uk/_oth/coCoElectric.aspx
     
  8. Jamessquared

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    I believe they did have boosters (and also pantographs for use in suitably equipped sidings).

    Incidentally - seeing as this is a livery thread: non-steam isn't exactly my thing, but looking at photos of CC1/2 /20003 - was there any livery applied to steam and diesel more impressive than the black / aluminium applied to the very early diesels?

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    In a word - no.

    I thought the original BTC livery for diesels (and electrics) looked stunning. Very "Machine Age" IMO.

    Would have loved to have seen a "Deltic" in that.
     
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    Another oddity:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_P_2/4
     
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    Wasn't there also a German V-8 steam locomotive?
     
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    What’s that? An 0-2-2-0?

    I think there was an early British loco (NER? GNR?) that was similar, but with two driving axles driven from a central Jack shaft rather than opposed pistons on one cylinder. The rationale was said to be about better balancing.

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    I like this contraption.
    Note that there are two separate pistons in each cylinder and a valve with three ports to the cylinder bore.
    Both pistons working 180 deg. out of phase. With inside "siderods" to keep the synchronization.
    The steam motors on the Otavi Railway in Namibia had the same design.

    "Warum einfach, wenn es kompliziert geht?"
    (Why simple, if you can make it complicated?)

     
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    As austaureters are the most modern engine I wonder how complicated this would have made whiston or sapper type engines and if it would have made an even better engine
     
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    Here is the wiki entry on it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_ML_2/2
     
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    Always thought this looked good, the 24 at the East Lancs wore a variant of it about 20 years ago (where is the time going?) I think that also carried a fictional version of BR black. A1B2A38D-92C7-4B53-ABE5-9E8A6B6C0031.jpeg
     
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    I’m more interested in the Maunsell era unit (a pair of 4 CORs?) in the background.


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    There was a black fragginsnet engine tooonce
     
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    There were a few actually.
     

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