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Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by Old Kent Biker, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. pmh_74

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    Do you think Lynton is going to need a tea room though? I've never been there but I imagine that it will be well served by such things already; if I arrived there by train I imagine I'd be heading straight to the beach, and if I was heading back by train I would know the train time and aim to arrive at the station 10 minutes before then, possibly via a leisurely stop at a tea rom in the town. The most I might buy at the station would be a cup of tea. I'd have thought the place for a decent sized tea room is (a) not where it's competing with other nearby tea rooms and (b) where you want to encourage people to get off and break their journey, such as where your engine shed ends up, or where you want them to start from, such as where your main car park is (i.e. Blackmoor Gate in both cases).
     
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    If we're talking the old station site, I'd suggest looking at a map and thinking about how people will get between Lynmouth, Lynton, and Lynton station before jumping to conclusions. If I were doing the trip with the family, I'd be quite grateful for a tea room to aim for after the ascent from the beach while waiting for the train - if only as an incentive to keep climbing.
     
  3. paulhitch

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    I have heard a complaint that there was no "way out" sign on a lavatory door. Absolutely so!

    PH
     
  4. pmh_74

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    May is getting long in the tooth now. I had a quick look on the planning website, this seems to be the latest report from one of the ENP officers:
    http://www.exmoor-nationalpark.gov....ed 2017.05.22- Historic Buildings Officer.pdf
    Sounds like an expensive bit of surveying; whether the request is a reasonable one I don't know; I find it hard to see why you need a 3D model when you could just go there and think "hmm, a building there would block the view of that" or whatever. Anyway if this is a serious request then I doubt it will be approved by the end of May. Though I say that from a position of pure ignorance.
     
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    Neither I nor the person I was replying to were referring to the original Lynton station site, I thought that was clear, apologies if I rendered it less so by quoting less of the original. The proposal is for a station nearer the town and hopefully up less of a hill.
     
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    Correction noted - thanks. I would maintain my observation - a good tea room by the platform is a godsend when travelling with family.
     
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    Wait till they try an old fashioned phone box.....................

    I'm sure you never exited from the side you walked in
     
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    Most of the old fashioned phone boxes I've seen recently are either used for growing tomatoes, or converted into showers. Now that could be fun watching what happens when they lift the handset and press the button...

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    You've definitely never been to Lynton if you think of heading straight to the beach. There are effectively two places; Lynton and Lynmouth. The latter is by the sea. On a flat piece of paper, they are essentially continuous and it is only about half a mile as the crow flies from the proposed station in Lynton to the pier in Lynmouth but the reality is that there is some 550 ft of vertical distance between them. Fortunately, there is a cliff railway ( www.cliffrailwaylynton.co.uk ) available to help with the climb back, which is not for the faint-hearted. ( I did it last week, as I always do just to prove that I still can.:))
    And, yes, there are tea rooms a plenty but the majority are in Lynmouth. If you haven't been, the place (and whole area) is well worth a visit.
     
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    I know the thread has moved on, but can I just sound a cautionary note about all the smug comments about door opening?
    It is neither nice nor clever to sneer at people for not knowing how to operate something they have never seen before and which probably predates their adult life. It is especially silly to do so when these are the people we are expecting to pay so we can have indulge ourselves playing with big toys.
    If you can't remember that passengers are customers, and can't see things from their viewpoint, your railway is doomed.
    (I know most of the comments were supposed to be wry humour, as I smiled as I read them, but there's another side to it too).
    Anyway, thought police back off duty: back to discussion of How To Get The Railway To The Beach.
     
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    Well yes I'll contend your probably right Paul, when it comes to doors, I am nowhere near as knowledgable on the matters of doors as you are! ;) But in anycase, as I said it was more of a rant of the moment then a full on analysis, just me dispairing by how much hand holding we seem seem to give these days is all. Commonsense seems a concept alien to increasingly more people these days I fear, but again I'm digressing...
     
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    I was talking to one of my younger female colleagues, explaining how to move the HP cylinder marine triple expansion engine to the 3o'clock/9o'clock position so you are ready for the first movement.

    She didn't have a clue..................
     
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    A couple of weeks ago when chatting to one of the L&B fireman (I see him most Saturdays and comes out with such things as the boiler/firebox on Charles Wytock has been condemned so a new one has to be made) he came up with that the planning had been put back to Sept at the earliest now, and also the roof for the loco works the planers wanted to change from the curved profile to a normal profile and the new profile they wanted was too low for the overhead crane to be put in. With this and the letter on reply 564 I will be surprised if the decision is made this year, as when the information is sent into the planners it will have to be sent to the objectors so they can have their say on it and send their replies back for the planners to look at. But to me the planners have made a right hash of it as they should have founds these problems with the information a year ago and not just now, and by the wording of that letter they are running scared of what might happen if the last t isn't crossed.
     
  15. paulhitch

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    Sorry but to someone who has not encountered these sorts of door locks and windows before they will be a complete mystery. It's like asking me to harness a carriage horse; I would not know what to do but a century ago many people would be able to do it easily. Someone from the eighteen eighties would be completely mystified by push button operated doors but would know exactly how to cope with strap operated droplights.

    It is not "hand holding" but "common sense" (a horrible expression meaning little more than "in my opinion") to ensure doors are properly closed. Kindness as well.

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    Well fair enough, I can see your point, I was clearly being a bit too harsh. So for that I apologise. Am I off the naughty step now? :Sorry:
     
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    I'm not sure what her gender has got to do with it, you could quite easily have had the same conversation and reaction from a younger male colleague.


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    Agreed

    I suspect if I started to take you (@johnofwessex) through the 'Monte Carlo computer simulation of catalytic action of Zeolites' which was the subject of my university dissertation, you might not have a clue.

    Much more attractive to find ways to pass on specialist and craft knowledge.
    For example. I love teaching mechanical signalling, and seeing those craft skills, which I was priviledged to learn from railwaymen some of whom started on the Railway in the 1940's, preserved and passed on.

    Robin Moira White
     
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    Exactly my thoughts...and how many of these numpties regularly sort out problems on their parents' PCs because said parents can't use 'common sense' when operating them. Common sense varies over time
     
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