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Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by Old Kent Biker, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    I can vouch by personal experience for @paulhitch's contention that some people are unsure how to open doors, especially the kind where you have to open a window and reach outside in order to operate the door handle. I'm not sure what the answer is in the context of a heritage railway, except to put instructions in the carriage(*); and to ensure there are platform staff to assist both on arrival and especially on departure.

    (*) Easy and unobtrusive to put a laminated card in each compartment that has a potted history of the carriage on one side, and instructions for the doors and window on the other.

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    The human race may need the Lord's help, but I suggest you observe any IC125 at Grantham to see how confused people are by slam doors when the norm is now power operated doors.
     
  3. paulhitch

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    Forgive me for saying so but this tends to suggest how little you know! I saw this issue myself only yesterday. Not surprising really. The G.W.R. never progressed beyond the "semi slam" type door and examples of this are to be found on older stock of other origins. The "full slam" type has fewer issues but as with all outward opening doors, there are some

    A semi slam lock needs the final quarter turn to be made manually in order to lock the door fully. If undertaken from within the carriage it is likely to require the droplight to be lowered . In older stock this requires the manipulation of a leather strap. About as "yesterday" and beyond modern experience as a non-synchromesh gearbox in a motor vehicle. It mattered not in a previous era of ample platform staff and it does not on a tourist railway with a well trained and alert crew. However it has to be thought about rather than harrumphed over.

    PH
     
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    It seems a tad unfair to single out the cerebrally challenged from any one particular location.:)
     
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    ;)

    Other locations and indeed lines are available as examples.
     
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    I take it then Paul you haven't come across the family who won't touch the leather strap because of where it came from in the first place.

    Getting back to the main thread here, as far as I am aware there has been a discussion between Lynton council and the L&BR Trust as to the possible location of a new Lynton station, from what has been verbally agreed the new station could go near the current football ground as that is a lot lower and closer to the town that the station at the top of the hill.

    Like so many villages in North Devon, Lynton and Lynmouth are under pressure to increase the housing stock, but because it is in a national park these things take time to work out. It is the same for the new station in Lynton.

    For what it is worth I would love to see a new Woody Bay size building in Lynton as building space will be tight, but if we have to include such things a tea room and book shop then we need to look at having a building the size of Blackmoor as it was.

    I can see that in time once the L&BR is open to Lynton, the Woody Bay station site will need to find a new use for itself, Golf anyone?

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  7. Jamessquared

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    How much lower? A ruling grade of say 1 in 50 would require a mile of track to lose 100 feet. I wonder what is actually feasible as an aspiration?

    I'm sure your near neighbours in Minehead could recommend a suitable developer for such an amenity ... ;)

    Tom
     
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    One suggestion that I have been told about and that was to go around the hill (where the old station is) on the other side by dean steep and come out in the valley of the rocks, the suggestion is that there is enough space to drop down to that level from that point,. continuing the 1 in 50 drop from Woody Bay.

    But the proviso for this is that it will still need to be checked from an engineering point of view before any final decision is made.

    For what it is worth I think there is a case to route the railway into and loop back on itself through the valley of rocks before getting to Lynton as there are no other ways to see parts of the valley of the rocks unless you do it by train.
     
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    Except of course to walk - I wouldn't hold my breath on running a new rail route through a local beauty spot it's as likely as finding intelligent life on the moon.
     
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    I can open doors and double-declutch. Is it my age?:)
     
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  11. paulhitch

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    Indeed.

    I can drive a steamroller and there is not a lot of call for that either.

    PH
     
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    You will find that the Local Planning Authority will be relaxed/enthusiastic about relaying the railway on the original solum but very twitchy indeed about any new route, unless of course someone has the money to construct it in tunnel. Nothing is impossible but it is probably just as difficult as reaching Barnstaple Junction.
     
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    That is true, but at this stage the dance has only just began, as until Woody Bay to Blackmoor is up and running, I can't see any progress being made on this for a while.
     
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    Many years ago now I was shown a photo of the saloon on Britannia - no not HM Yacht but the altogether superior P&A Campbell steamer built in Ayr in 1896.

    The area under the seats was curtained off to conceal a supply of - yes chamber pots, not for those caught short but sufferers of 'mal de mer'
     
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    When I visited a few years ago, I saw map with a proposal to extend the line to Lydiate Lane, a short distance before it meets the end of Station Hill. It would be no more than 10 minutes walk to the centre of Lynton, but would be uphill from where Lydiate Lane meets Station Hill to the station.
     
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    My personal favourite is watching folk trying to get Mk1 doors to open by pressing the rubber bump stop....

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    Note to self............

    If I ever see Robin on the platform, start jabbing the Door Stops frantically......
     
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    Don't forget to make a buzzing/swooshing noise....:)

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    I was in Lynton for a bit of business (and pleasure) last week and the topic of the L & BR station and location came up. I was told that the business stakeholders would probably pay for a free vintage(?) bus connection between the original station and town if the railway brought additional people to the to the place. Whether the enthusiasm for this would translate into reality, I don't know.
     
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    Not to mention how to flush a toilet fitted with a high level cistern and chain...
     

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