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Identification of diesels a brief dissertation by Jamessquared

Discussion in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' started by RalphW, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. Victor

    Victor Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    Pay great attention to Chassis strengthening, If something like that got a boot full of throttle it would be cracked frames etc. all round.
     
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    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    :attention: Pay attention at the back Petwall!! Sneaking into class late and clearly not done our homework have we? I've already diagrammed the S-pacer for the Sheff/Notts/Derby HS2 shuttles! #126 above.
     
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    Nah, the thing would move but the frames would be left behind.

    Any thoughts of steam heat in that thing ?

    thing.. What's it called anyway ? A Peltic, Delcer, nodding Deltic ?
     
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    Given that we have had "Deltics" and "Baby Deltics", this one's behaviour would probably merit something along the lines of "Adolescent Deltic"...

    Do you think you could pull a wheelie in it?

    Steve B
     
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    Or pull a wheelie bin with it?
     
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    :ear:You certainly wouldn't stand a chance of pulling a Bird in it, not with that racket going on.:ear:
     
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    Have had a word with the Napier Police and they view all this talk of putting one of their fine power plants in the pile of rubbish that is a Pacer as heresy so expect a visit from the Inquistion forthwith.
     
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    Steam heat???? :frusty: If it's got a Deltic it will have an open fire............see pictures of the Deltics with the oil collector(?) blazing. ...........I'll try to find one.

    Deltic Firestarter - YouTube There you go, skip to just after a minute.
     
  9. Martin Perry

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    If you don't want it Deltic powered, how about fitting a Napier Sabre??? :D
     
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    Mmn, new page all for you, That's ..........Mr. Oddsocks, Loughborough, derogatory remarks about the mighty machines. Noted.

    Oh, and send our King back up to York. Bloody car park indeed, we'll bury him properly, in a church. :mmph:
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    Victor Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    I took the staff on a day out yesterday (Pensioners special offer, S&C). Northern rail is infested with the damn Pacer things, I'm sure they're breeding.:rolleyes1:
     
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    We could always paint the beast brown and name it "Richard the Third" ......
     
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    Hey, don't come all heavy-handed with me, chuck. No-one expects the Deltic Inquisi ... hang on, who's that at the door??

    ...

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    Just the postman - phew!

    Anyway, I've been trying to set up a meeting between the Deltic Preservation Society and these guys:

    PACER PRESERVATION SOCIETY - Home

    but they're not returning my calls or emails.:phone: :noidea:

    Richard
     
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    From the web site,
    "The Pacer railbuses represent a dynamic period in the development of Britain's railways. They are historically important in the DMU story and would be useful addition to many preserved railways."

    "Dynamic period," you must be joking.

    "useful addition to many preserved railways!" What as, a camping coach maybe.
     
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    Maybe they would be ideal for the S**th B*ds R**lw*y?

    Tom
     
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    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    Ooh, it looks much ruder when you put the asterisks in!

    So who has more members, the Pacer crowd or the S**th B*ds crowd? Bearing in mind the Pacer people have hired a minibus on rails to hold their AGM in , which might give some indications of the expected turnout...

    Anyway, back to more early diesels. Here's today's task for the class: in the early diesel DP1, does DP stand for "double penetration", referring to the two pistons in one cylinder? And if so, how do you explain DP2?

    (Victor - you are advised not to use Google to answer that question...)

    Tom
     
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    So do I, but it doesn't mean I actually do anything :sleep:
     

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