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Gresley I1?

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by RLinkinS, Apr 1, 2020.

  1. RLinkinS

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    I have been sorting through lots of things my parents accumulated over the years. My Father was a life long railway enthusiast and was given items by many of his friends. In this there are a lot of interesting things and the attached picture is a puzzle to me. At first it appears to be a poorly focussed snap of a Gresley P2 but on closer examination it has a leading bogie. I know Gresley had a 4-8-2 outlined but I did not think one was built.

    The P2 had problems with derailments so I expect a 4-8-2 with a longer wheelbase could be even more prone to this problem. Is it possible that this loco was converted to a P2. It certainly seems to have the same smokebox shape as 2001 and 2002.

    Perhaps the construction was hushed up and this picture was taken hurriedly without permission?[​IMG]

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    Lirpa loof!
     
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    Surely HNG just quietly dropped the idea, after Henry Greenly beat him to it! :D
     
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    Clearly it is a model, perhaps gauge 1, or 2 1/2", it would be nice to know more about it!
     
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    Well it did not take long for you all to see through this. In fact it is 3 1/2" gauge. LBSC started to describe a loco called "Duchess of Swindon" in the Model Engineer magazine but was effectively sacked after a couple of articles. Reg Holdstock of St Leonard's built it as a Cock o the North style 4-8-2. It had a combustion chamber boiler, double blast pipe and feed heater. It was fast, quieter efficient. Reg had trained as a sign writer so it was beautifully painted. 2 cylinders but plenty of power. The picture is at Mote Park, Maidstone. Unfortunately the original pictures are poor.

    I do not know where the loco is now.

    It would be great to take it for another gallop in the sun.


    I1 - 2.jpg

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    Interesting story, thankyou. I bet that is just waiting to be rediscovered somewhere.
     
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    Would it be an I? It seems that I was never used, I would imagine they'd shuffle R-T around a bit to allow for this (poss combine 0-8-2 and 0-8-4 to allow T to be for 4-8-2). But then there's always π...
     
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    I was the only letter that the LNER did not seem to have used bu I may well be wrong.

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    It was sold by Reg to someone from Yorkshire and then sold on. The son of this person told me last year that he did not know where it was.

    A Schools class Reg built is in Hastings museum.



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    The RCTS (LNER Locos Part 10A) authors pointed out that prefixes R (0-8-2) and X (2-2-4 & 4-2-2) had become extinct by 1939 (with the proviso that X1 "Aerolite" had gone to York Museum). Their prediction was that if the 4-8-2 had been built, it would have re-used the R prefix so as to keep all the 8-coupled types together.
     
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