I'd just like to add my penny's worth regarding greastops, if I may. I started out with one of the Walter Midgely jobs. I ended up hacking away most of the plastic stiffener and getting the wife to sew down the sides. Whilst it no longer resembled a helicopter landing pad, it did make me look like a Geman tank commander. Thank goodness I came across the Beesley website. These greastops are indeed expensive, but they are the only hats that qualify for the title of "Greasetop". The headband is leather and they sit right even without being sewed at the sides (I had to try successively smaller sizes before getting it right... the hat needs to sit slightly higher on your head than any other type of hat or the top of your head will cause it to "inflate"). Many of my colleagues have purchased cheaper greasetops and seem to be content that merely owning and wearing one, regardless of how it looks is sufficiently authentic. Do these people not own mirrors? The shiney PVC top resembles black glass and seems like it would be more at home in some tacky S&M dungeon! I study a lot of old railway photos and am aware that greasetops were worn in a multitude of styles, the jaunty angled look being particularly popular; but I have never seen one worn standing up stiffly to attention like these cheap copies do. One of my colleagues even stores his high-viz vest in his hat! Within the bounds of my limited budget I stive for an authentic look on the footplate. I wonder why I bother sometimes though, when I see senior footplatemen turning up for driving turns wearing paint-spashed fleeces, baseball caps and tracksuit bottoms. And don't get me started on 3ltr bottles of squash! Rant over. Thank you for your time, gentlemen.