Bulleid Pacifics - Past or Present

Hi all the latest on both of these locos are 76017 will becoming in to the main shed at Ropley in the near future and once 76017 has been restored 34105 (Swanage)will then enter Ropley workshop for overhaul. This info comes from someone in the know

 

Makes sense, as they can restore both the BR Standard 4`s together and in some cases order/make replacement parts at the same time. Also there is no need just yet for a second Spam Can, although there may just be a chance that 34105 might be finished before 34007`s ticket expires.

 

Obviously advances have been made - As in you know where???.....

 

Lovely all the same - There are alot of bounderies to get across yet! And as for 34016 and the lines flagship loco 35005???? 35005 must surely take priority?

 

Maybe, however with the fact that over the next year, Douglas, 92212, 45379 and 31806 are expected to be outshopped, there will be probably be four locos going into the works. The general trend though with MHR overhauls is that they wait their turn and the fact that 76017 is due to be next in line anyway.

 

35005 been the flagship loco? since when it hasnt done much work for the mhr yet whereas 73096 literally flogged its guts out till the end but if you want a showmans engine as the flagship instead of a deserving loco then so be it, 73096 will always be the flagship!

 

I don't think the term flagship is for what loco does the most work, nor do i think 73096 could carry that title. 35005 did quite a few years service at the MHR before being withdrawn. 34016 was the flagship in the past, and i assume 35005 will be the flagship when she is back.

 

I can't see how 73096 can be called a flagship loco because it doesn't belong to the MHR. Once 73096 lease/agreement has run out will she be still staying on the MHR? Maybe her owner will move her to another railway.

 

I think people are getting a bit confused over what a flagship loco is - it has nothing to do with mileage, ownership, colour etc. etc.

To me, a flagship loco is the loco that most people will think of when you mention the railway's name. It may also be the loco that the railway uses in a logo or on publicity leaflets.

So if you say MHR, I would say Bodmin; if you say Swanage, I would say the M7. People's opinions on what the flagship loco actually is may be different, but it has nothing to do with some of the items mentioned earlier in this thread!


Keith

 

Back in the day, 34072 was the 'flagship locomotive', which was why the Swanage used it as an emblem on their polo shirts for a while. The whole point of a 'flagship' is that you can move the term around, especially if the original 'flagship' is out of action in some way (I'm not suggesting 34072 has been torpedoed by a U-Boat!). So now, I would agree that 30053 is the new 'flagship' because of its historic association with the line its working on.

 

That really would be wonderful news, if true, not just for the individual locos but for the whole of the Mid-Hants and it's relations with former members and partners. Quite a few hatchets have been buried in recent years - long may it continue!

Interesting. I wonder how many of the componants are common between the smaller 76xxx 2-6-0 and the larger 75xxx 4-6-0? There's a certain amount that's common across many BR classes, of course. However, I seem to remember that these two are not particularly similar.

But this is wandering away from the Bulleid Pacifics topic, again...

 

I wonder which Merchant Navy will emerge from overhaul/restoration after 35006? There doesn't seem to be much news on the 35025 front, although I'm sure they are doing a lot of work behind the scenes after their relocation. My money is on 35027, the overhaul of which will probably begin soon seeing as 46100 has left.

 

There is a photo of the inside of the smokebox in "Bulleid of the Southern" by H A V Bulleid (plate 96) showing the Giesl Ejector and the surrounding spark arrester screens, which folded back, presumably to assist cleaning. The book is obviously out of print but second-hand copies are available online from £12.00 upwards. It's an interesting book.

 

There doesn't seem to be much news recently on 35006 news recently either.... Latest update I can find is related to Decemeber still with the boiler being at Chatham? Is this still the case?? If so does anyone know of the work still to be carried out to her boiler and if some pictures will be posted regarding her passing the steam test?

 

Hi all 34105 Swanage name plate was up for sale a few months ago and reached £10.000 I’ve copied the following info from Sheffield Railway Auctions catalogue. Was this a good buy for someone?



LOCOMOTIVE NAMEPLATE: “SWANAGE” as carried by the (SR) 4-6-2 “West Country” class Pacific ? 34105 built at Brighton in March 1950. A long-time Bournemouth loco, but was withdrawn in October 1964 from Eastleigh and sent to Woodhams at Barry for scrap in February 1965. Purchased by the 34105 Light Pacific Group and moved to the Mid Hants Railway for preservation in March 1978. The loco was first steamed in August 1987. It was the 90th loco to leave Barry for preservation. Cast brass, 63” x 11” the front repainted, brasswork lightly polished only, back in ex-loco condition. The back has the punched letter “L” indicating that this is the left hand plate. NOTE: This is one of the original plates removed from the loco when withdrawn in 1964. A reproduction “West Country Class” scroll manufactured by the Mid Hants Light Railway to match is also available. (2) £10000

 

I wonder if a member from the MHRPS could have possibly bought the nameplate?

 

does anybody know anything about the main line bulleids undergoing overhaul?

34027 nothing has been released over the past 2 years about its overhaul
35027 what satge is its overhaul at?
34046 when is it going to hit the mainline?

 

AFAIK: 34027 is in the reassembly stage of its overhaul, boiler is being repaired by Pridhams of Tavistock.
35027 overhaul has started although not very far progressed.
34046 Talking to someone at the WSR yesterday who is an active volunteer, it was his belief that 34046 would undertake a full season of WSR traffic before being prepared for mainline work.

 

76017 and 75079 , i dont thing that there are any parts that are common between the two engines, the standard 4 4-6-0 is a different engine to the standard 4 mogol, the 80xxx tank locos i believe had some common parts , same boiler, motion and cylinders of the 75xxx but i could be wrong on this, but the standard 4 mogol was really an cleaned up ivatt 4 flying pig where as the standard 4 4-6-0 , might have been an all new design, at least i cant think of any pre nationation engine that might have been the basis for the design
but it would make sence to overhaul both at the same time the boiler of 75079 is suppossed to not need a great deal of work done to it i believe unlike that of 76017 last time she was steamed she wasnt exactly water tight

 

Good news about 34046 going mainline in under a years time...... I can see her being down the South Coast etc..... What will happen with regards to being stored? Will she remain at the WSR?

Does anyone have an update to when 34027 is expected top be finished? I know there is alot fo wrok to do - But any updates would be great? I know the Boiler and Cyliner and Frames have been dealt with.... Although has the Boiler been tested or even completed yet?