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BR standards numbers/ lettering

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 240P15, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. 240P15

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    Hi there
    I`m working with a drawing of Ivatt class 2 tank engine (no. 41298) and have a question of the numbers applied to the cabside of it (and BR standard locomotives in general). The problem is that I dont`t know the dimension/ style of the numbers used on these engines , I guess the BR used to follow a determinated measurement.
    I will be very thankful for any assistance:)

    an example below :

    IMG_20190328_0001.jpg
    Knut:)
     
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    I could take a photo of the numbers on the actual loco for you tomorrow, I could put a tape on the cab side to give sense of scale, plus take some dimensions for you.
     
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    The number '3' in your image isn't the style that BR used. They used a version of Gill Sans.

    I have recreated it as a TrueType Font :).
     
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    Thank you so much!:) Very kind of you!
     
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    Didn't one of the Scottish Works - Cowlairs or St. Rollox - use different size numbers? I seem to recall that Darlington did some odd things with numbers too?
     
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    Yes engines overhauled at St Rollox had occasionally (?) slightly larger numbers than the 'standard' size.

    As to Darlington, one example I can give is I have a slide of a Jinty at Crewe with both the BR logo & the number above each other in the centre of the side tanks. Non standard for Jinty's as standard practice was for the number to be on the bunker & the BR logo in the centre of the side tanks

    The engine is 47482 & is duly noted as one of only two of this class overhauled at Darlington.
     
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    But both those photos are preservation era, so can’t automatically be assumed as 100% representative for the style used pre-preservation.

    Tom
     
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    I recall that photo. Indeed, I think it's been seen on FB recently. Aren't the numbers used bigger than those normally applied to the bunker sides too?
     
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    Confession time I forgot to photograph 41298 for you sorry, in my defence their was rather a lot happening at Havenstreet on Friday. The photo of 70000 I believe was in a temporary livery after overhaul.
     
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    Yes, but I could not find any clouse up photos from that era.
     
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    Page from Ted Talbot's picture book on BR Standard Locos attached.
     

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    Fantastic! :) Thank you so much huochemi!

    Knut
     
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    There was a standard 3 tank that carried it's number on the cab side rather than the bunker, can't remember which one but think it may have been allocated to Bath Green Park?
     
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    That would be 82044 which was also unique in not having the bunker lined out. Perhaps the works where it was last painted were used to doing 84xxx?
    Ray.
     
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    Great! Thank you very much!:)

    Knut
     

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