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BR Locos that are still overseas

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by lynbarn, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. pmh_74

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    Don’t think it’s the same design. The Italian pair are not represented elsewhere as far as I know.

    Didn’t an 03 or 04 shunter come back from Italy? Also one of the class 59s ran abroad for a while but has since returned.


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  2. Romsey

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    59003 was purchased by GBRf after working in Germany. It's normally works out of Westbury or Eastleigh and often ends up on the daytime engineering material trains between Westbury and Eastleigh.

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    Apologies, you are correct. The Berkeley Vale loco is LMS 7069 BR class D3/6 whereas the Italian locos are BR class D3/7 from the LMS number range 7100-7109.

    According to Wiki (yes I know!), 4 locos from the 7100-7109 range went to Italy after the war while the remaining 6 went to Egypt - has there ever been any sightings of these locos in Egypt or are they long since scrapped?

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  4. peckett

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    I'll throw these three in,WD 2-10-0 Thessaloniki Greece ,LB class 964 ,WD 73682 ,May 1980.Two in Norway, 21, 2-4-0 t BP 992/1870, Hamar Museum,1067 mm gauge, one of three built ,almost identical to the Isle of man locos'.
    10 Hugin built Motala (42/1882)Sweden ,Stravanger station, both July 2003.
     

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    That's good news. I'd love to see one of those in action.
     
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    Slightly O/T are the Class 11s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_11, several of which are preserved. I've seen images of 12099 currently undergoing a strip down in Kidderminster TMD.

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    One of the Italian ones is preserved in Turin, they did have plans to get it running again but I'm not if the floods they had there a few years ago put paid to that. @ilvaporista might have a better idea. The second one is still nominally in service with TFT in Arezzo, but I don't think has worked for a while. I believe that they've said it'll be going to a local museum when they do finish with it. None of the Greek ones survive as far as I know.
     
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    I've not been round that way for a while so I have no idea of the latest status. Preserved is probably a bit of an overstatement based on the last time I saw it. Following the floods the whole yard was knee deep in water. I'll have to take a trip over to the other side of town to have a look.
     
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    The Aussie locos are in fact ex Mersey Railway, being exported on electrification. I think one is in a museum and the other rusting in a "collection" but I may be outdated.
    I also think at least one of the Belgian McIntosh 0-6-0s was scrapped only a few years ago.
    The Belgians also have a 4-4-0 which is basically a Dunalastair II and a related 4-4-2T for which there was no Scottish equivalent.


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    Yes, one of the Belgian 0-6-0s was scrapped in about 2002.

    Here's a question, the American 2-6-0s which were used by the Midland, GN and GC for a few years before the grouping, were, I understand a Baldwin standard design, for the most part. Do any of this type survive in the US?
     
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    I presume that they were more based on a standard design than being off the shelf, as it were. Presumably they'd have had to be modified for the loading gauge, for example?

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    Can I clarify the situation with locos in Australia. We are talking about four locos in total, all of which were exported to J.&A. Brown for use on their colliery railways in NSW.

    Firstly there is only one Mersey Railway 0-6-4T, formerly No.1 The Major. J&A Brown bought four of this class of nine locos in 1905 and numbered them 5 to 8. It is their No5 that survives, now at the NSW Rail Transport Museum at Thirlmere. It was still unrestored when I saw it in 2009. It is not to be confused with Mersey railway No5 Cecil Raikes which was sold for colliery use in the UK and survives in Liverpool Museum.

    Then there are three survivors of the thirteen ex-ROD 2-8-0s that were sold to Browns in the mid to late '20s. One, Brown's No 23 has recently been nicely cosmetically restored and is on display at Richmond Vale near to its old stamping ground. The other two, Nos 20 and 24, are at a private "museum" at Dorrigo in north eastern NSW. They form part of a vast collection of NSW locos and rolling stock all of which, alas, are just rotting away and are unlikely to ever turn a wheel again. The impression you get is that the guy who "owns" the collection is a complete fantasist and a very possessive one at that. Interestingly, I seem to recall that these two locos were origionally set aside for a preservation plan based on repatriating them to Quainton Road. When this fell through the man from Dorrigo snapped them up.

    Here is a picture of J & A Browm's No 5, ex Mersey Railway No 1 The Major at Thirlmere in 2009.


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    Thanks for clarifying.

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    I would also add that none of these four locomotives are ex-BR, so discussion of them and the WD locomotives in Greece are not in the remit of this thread.
     
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    Despite the thread title, the OP did ask for locos "built for BR or other British railway companies" so I think the Mersey loco qualifies.
    The ROD / WD locos are in a different category, of course.

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    Sorry for going OT, Spinner. You are of course quite correct, but I dare to suggest that discussing diesel locomotives here is even worse. This is after all part of the steam traction thread.

    Peter
     
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    By the same token you could include two of the three ROD 2-8-0s. Nos 23 (ROD 2004) and 24 (ROD 2003) were part of a handful of such locos built by the GCR at Gorton for the ROD. Only six were built at Gorton out of a total of 521 locos.

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    The only Belgian 0-6-0 I know of was 41.195 ,plinthed on Charleroi Sud station.Ex steam heat loco ,now at a museum. It had wooden side rods when I took this photo ,that was 06/10/1990.It was moved when the station was rebuilt a few years later. McIntosh 1899 built 57563 taken at 66A Polmadie on 17/04/1955 for comparison.
     

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    I believe 41.195 still exists in a steam centre. The one which was scrapped was superheated 44.021.
    The 4-4-0 is 18.051 and the 4-4-2T is 16.042. both are in the new national railway museum.

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