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Bodmin and Wenford + other Cornish lines

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by Monkey Magic, May 4, 2019.

  1. Pete Thornhill

    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    In the case of 4247 is it that fishy? Although it was a long time ago now, I remember 4247 being GWSR based for a couple of seasons. At this point a deal was made with the BWR for a long term deal which I seem to remember was a 17 year deal covering the remaining part of that ticket plus a further 10 year period with an overhaul in the middle. This deal would of expired in 2021 which is what I guess has happened. Fact is on that original deal I believe the loco was only contacted until 2021 (happy to be corrected though if I have remembered wrong).
     
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    On its own, no. The way the information was dripped out wasn't exactly confidence raising but thats a very superficial reading of the matter. But like I said, lightly over-hiring out locomotives, selling the 33 and the sale of a complete RMB makes a possible 2+2=5. It could entirely be possible that the railway has identified excess stock especially with the RMB but my worry is its a wholesale car boot sale of the railways assets.
     
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    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    On the loco hire, unless I’m mistaken, wasn’t the Ivatt dispatched from the MHR in exchange for 4612, to allow it to appear at the Thomas event as Duck following the failure of 6435, the reason being the MHR needed a pannier for that?
     
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    I had overlooked that point and the knock on effect.
     
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    This is good news for the Painton railway that soon there could be you can see double headers or they might do double Enders or even a three some people might say now that they have to many of these types of engine!
     
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    Makes sense to me, makes maintenance, overhauls and crewing a lot easier.
    I have Foreign friend who on seeing British preserved steam railways always comments why doesn’t each railway just have particular class of engine it would make the things easier for each railway, although enthusiasts would probably have a different perspective to that.
     
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    Carefull talking about double enders and three somes, this is a family forum
     
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    What would you do with the likes of 1501, 43106 or 9017 though? :cool:
     
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    'Variety is the spice of life'.

    No, I'm not having a dig at the WSR ;)

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    Sources also report the departure of a BR Mk 1 SK, a GWR syphon , a CCT and a stored DMU car with a milk tank still offered for sale. Two, small industrial diesels and a couple of wagons are also waiting for transport to another site. Apparently much of this has been driven by a reduction in storage space following the loss of the sidings at Walker Lines and a review of workshop capacity and funding . 4247's time came to an end following a re-assessment of the load capacity of one bridge which meant it could no longer run to Boscarne Junction. The dining set has also been placed in store pending a review of its future.
     
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    Thanks Brennan. Like I say, I had hoped that there was a better explanation than the one sitting in front of me. All very sensible.
     
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    Does anyone know what's happening at Walker Lines? Recent social media posts show the old turnout lifted, but a new one has been installed slightly further back towards Bodmin Parkway, so some siding space must still be available / in the plan?
     
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    As far as I've been told, the Milk tanker has been sold (but not to me I hastily add!)
     
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    Interesting, it seems to imply that 4247 won't be doing any running at Cranmore prior to overhaul. Has its ticket already expired and that's just something I've missed?
     
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    It was already out of ticket - not sure when its ticket actually finished though.
     
  16. Pete Thornhill

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    It expired last year.
     
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    Walker Lines started life in about 1970 when a private siding was laid ( section 8 grant) to service a fertiliser distribution depot. Passenger services had ended in 1967 so it was a cheap job using recovered materials. After a few years this traffic went to road haulage and the siding abandoned but left in place. After the Bodmin and Wenford started operations an additional three sidings were laid to provide storage for permanent way vehicles and also for a rail freight service used by a manufacturer of lighting equipment. In the fullness of time this also ceased and the premises were taken over by another business that didn't use rail transport. The original siding and one of the additional were on private land , therefore no longer accessible by the BWR.

    The connection had a very tight radius that made the shunting of bogie stock difficult , also by about 2010 the use of life-expired materials made the tracks unserviceable and there was very little use. Finally the connecting point was also deemed unserviceable and has now been removed. However, a new connection with better alignment was first laid, the site cleared and levelled and the intention is to erect a carriage storage shed at some time in the future.
     
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    In the early days of the BWR (early 90's) didn't freight trains used to run from Walker lines? I'm sure i remember reading that in SR at the time.
     
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    Wasn't that a film studio lighting company who found rail caused less damage to their equipment than lorries? Or maybe that another preserved line.
     
  20. Pete Thornhill

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    With an 08 iirc.
     

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