If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

92214 Sold

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Sidmouth, Jan 27, 2014.

Page 7 of 8
  1. London Bridge

    London Bridge New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2012
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    8
    Official GCR spokesman has told press asking about 92214 being repainted:

    "Can't help you at the moment, nothing has been announced, rumours abound, sorry."

    www.railpicturelibrary.com


     
    London Bridge, Mar 1, 2014
    #121
  2. michaelh

    michaelh Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,080
    Likes Received:
    1,291
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Very comfortably early retired
    Location:
    1029
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The WR 75xxx locos wore lined green in service
     
    michaelh, Mar 1, 2014
    #122
  3. S.A.C. Martin

    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    5,591
    Likes Received:
    9,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Asset Engineer (Signalling), MNLPS Treasurer
    Location:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    There's a precedent for BR green on a 9F, albeit a unique and famous one, so perhaps - thought process here - rather than renaming 92214 as Cromwell Warrior, it could gain a copper cap, green livery, the number 92220 and "Evening Star" nameplates for a time. There's little chance of the real 92220 steaming any time soon perhaps the opportunity could be made to make a photo opportunity of it and make it relevant to railway preservation at the same time.

    Who knows - with the NRM's blessing perhaps such a repaint could celebrate the building of, and subsequent withdrawal for preservation of the last steam locomotive built for British Railways? Other tie ins with Swindon accepted.
     
    S.A.C. Martin, Mar 1, 2014
    #123
  4. Alan Brader

    Alan Brader New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    22
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Idle so and so
    Location:
    On a platform watching trains
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    It is often discussed that owners have the right to paint and call their locos what ever they wish, but I think masquerading a preserved loco as another preserved loco is a bit weird.
     
    Alan Brader, Mar 1, 2014
    #124
  5. Bean-counter

    Bean-counter Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2007
    Messages:
    5,844
    Likes Received:
    7,688
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Former NP Member
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer

    It's been done - 30926 Repton appeared on the G&WSR as Cheltenham for the reopening of Cheltenham Racecourse Station (I think that was the occasion!).

    Steven
     
    Bean-counter, Mar 1, 2014
    #125
  6. S.A.C. Martin

    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    5,591
    Likes Received:
    9,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Asset Engineer (Signalling), MNLPS Treasurer
    Location:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer

    I did wonder when writing that if it was a bit odd - the way I see it is that none of us born past 1980 have seen 92220 in steam and are unlikely to. It would be something different and also authentic (unlike Cromwell Warrior - though I accept it is the owner's prerogative and I happily acknowledged that fact previously with Cock O' The North) which is the main thing for me.
     
    S.A.C. Martin, Mar 1, 2014
    #126
  7. Bean-counter

    Bean-counter Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2007
    Messages:
    5,844
    Likes Received:
    7,688
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Former NP Member
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer

    Funny, I could have sworn I checked ticket behind 92220 in 1986 and 1987, and in the later case, my then boss and family were about and his children, all under 7 - would have seen 92220 in steam. Ftrom memory, it last ran on the West Somerset about 1990!

    Steven
     
    Bean-counter, Mar 1, 2014
    #127
  8. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    26,201
    Likes Received:
    57,858
    Location:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I have a photo of Stowe renumbered and renamed as Sir Lamiel - not only one preserved engine masquerading as another, but missing a set of wheels as well!

    Tom
     
    Jamessquared, Mar 1, 2014
    #128
  9. Paul42

    Paul42 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    5,926
    Likes Received:
    3,864
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    East Grinstead
    There is a picture as you describe with the BR emblen painted out, by R.C.Riley in the Michael Welch book mentioned in post 114. There is also one of the Adams Radial in black, no emblem and 488 on the bunker in the same book.
     
    Paul42, Mar 1, 2014
    #129
    Corbs and Spamcan81 like this.
  10. S.A.C. Martin

    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    5,591
    Likes Received:
    9,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Asset Engineer (Signalling), MNLPS Treasurer
    Location:
    London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Was it as late as 1990? Still too late for me then :) (born 1987). 24 years later and unlikely to turn a wheel in service again.
     
    S.A.C. Martin, Mar 1, 2014
    #130
  11. std tank

    std tank Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    3,816
    Likes Received:
    951
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Liverpool
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    All the Standard 4 4-6-0s were painted in lined black livery initially. It was only from 1957 onwards that Swindon started to paint the W.R. allocated locos in lined green. This also applied to the Ivatt 2 2-6-0s, Std 5 4-6-0s, Std 2 2-6-0s and Std 3 2-6-2 tanks allocated to W.R. sheds.
     
    std tank, Mar 1, 2014
    #131
  12. markjkirby

    markjkirby Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2005
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    4
    Funny, I could have sworn I checked ticket behind 92220 in 1986 and 1987, and in the later case, my then boss and family were about and his children, all under 7 - would have seen 92220 in steam. Ftrom memory, it last ran on the West Somerset about 1990!

    Steven

    and made it to Whitby as well.
    mark
     
    markjkirby, Mar 2, 2014
    #132
  13. MarkinDurham

    MarkinDurham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2007
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    973
    Location:
    Durham
    I know that the ship has now sailed, as it were, as far as 92214 is concerned. However, given that the NYMR operates to Whitby over the Esk Valley under a derogation for some of the locomotives (ie not a full main line fit of electronics, as I understand it), then if none of the points/crossings on the EVR have the raised checkrails that have banned 9Fs elsewhere from the national network, couldn't a derogation regarding this have been applied for?
     
    MarkinDurham, Mar 3, 2014
    #133
  14. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2006
    Messages:
    11,975
    Likes Received:
    10,180
    Occupation:
    Gentleman of leisure, nowadays
    Location:
    Near Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    It could.

    Whether it would have succeeded is a different matter!
     
    Steve, Mar 3, 2014
    #134
  15. MarkinDurham

    MarkinDurham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2007
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    973
    Location:
    Durham
    True enough. However, shy bairns get nowt!
     
    MarkinDurham, Mar 3, 2014
    #135
  16. buseng

    buseng Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2005
    Messages:
    4,799
    Likes Received:
    349
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Tilehurst, Reading, Berks.
    Just read in the latest SR that 92214 is to be repainted in lined brunswick green & MAY be named "Central Star", a combination of Great CENTRAL & Evening STAR!
    The original idea of naming it Cromwell Warrior seems to have fallen by the wayside.
     
    buseng, Mar 28, 2014
    #136
  17. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    35,150
    Likes Received:
    20,797
    Occupation:
    Training moles
    Location:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    34081 ran as 34057 at the NNR. 34057 worked the GE for a short while c.1951.
     
    Spamcan81, Mar 28, 2014
    #137
  18. andalfi1

    andalfi1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,007
    Likes Received:
    466
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Semi Retired.
    Location:
    Haworth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm taking that one with a 'large' pinch of salt, after all it is the April edition ?
    Andy
     
    andalfi1, Mar 28, 2014
    #138
    ADB968008 likes this.
  19. class8mikado

    class8mikado Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,626
    Likes Received:
    1,455
    Occupation:
    Print Estimator/ Repository of Useless Informatio.
    Location:
    Bingley W.Yorks.
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    By that token it should perhaps be named 'Great Evening 'and used to advertise dining trains. ?
    Things that go with Cromwell Better than - Warrior,could be
    -Defender,
    - Charger
    -Crusader
    - Champion
    - Instigator
    - Intercepter
    - Pyromancer
    - Explorer
    - Voyager
    - Navigator
    - Vindicator
    - Decapod
    Or
    General - Cromwell
    Lord -,
    Thomas - (could paint it blue...)
    Or just Murdoch ( or orange .... nice)
    'Roundhead'
    'Ironsides' with or without the old perhaps
    Lord Protector
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2014
    class8mikado, Mar 28, 2014
    #139
    andalfi1 likes this.
  20. Fred Kerr

    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    8,260
    Likes Received:
    5,273
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Freelance photo - journalist
    Location:
    Southport
    Correct ! It was active on the S&C in both 1984 and 1988
     
    Fred Kerr, Mar 28, 2014
    #140
Page 7 of 8

Share This Page