Totally agree and should have probably worded it slightly better. Not mentioning 92212, 34007 or 45379 is the reason I used the term "which includes" although in hindsight I should have mentioned the Black 5 for its usefulness (not suggesting in any way that the 9F and Wadebridge as not useful). Personally I will miss the Moguls but as I stated earlier, time, people and locos move on. I have no doubt that they are all safe and won't become razor blades. Wherever they turn up, if/when they are made operable, they will all be an asset.