If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

60019 Bittern to Chester 22 November

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by alastair, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    16,510
    Likes Received:
    7,753
    Location:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    He's obsessed :)
     
    Bean-counter likes this.
  2. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    21,072
    Likes Received:
    20,781
    Location:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    One track mind...;)

    But on the main point. Logically, if the train takes a diesel with it then the train will be turned. If it doesn't then only the loco and support coach will turn. That's simply because you don't usually propel a whole train from the wrong end although I have known it happen when the train is just being shunted out of an adjoining siding into a platform as at Shrub Hill.
     
  3. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2005
    Messages:
    35,447
    Likes Received:
    9,146
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired-ish, Part time rail tour steward.
    Location:
    Northwich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Single track mind, :rolleyes: wonder if it's bi-directional?
     
  4. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    35,121
    Likes Received:
    20,773
    Occupation:
    Training moles
    Location:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Depends on the destination but I agree that anywhere there's a triangle there's a danger the whole train will turn if a box is present.
     
  5. alastair

    alastair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2005
    Messages:
    1,233
    Likes Received:
    748
    Yes, you are right. Sorry,I got that wrong.
     
  6. KentYeti

    KentYeti Guest

    :oops::oops:

    Oh dear, a slip of the finger. I was only thinking of steam at the time. Honest.
     
  7. Tommo3007

    Tommo3007 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2014
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Turning for operational reasons so it seems so let's see what happens on the day.
     
  8. Steamage

    Steamage Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2005
    Messages:
    4,736
    Likes Received:
    1,107
    Location:
    Oxford
    On UKsteam.info, the right-hand column says "Diesel at rear" but crossed out. Make of that what you will...
     
    Tommo3007 likes this.
  9. Tommo3007

    Tommo3007 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2014
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    The suspense.. Who knows what's going on.
     
  10. D1002

    D1002 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Messages:
    8,659
    Likes Received:
    6,415
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Enfield
    Steam Dreams Facebook Page:

    "We are delighted to confirm that this Saturday's Cathedrals Express trip to Chester with No 4464 - 'Bittern' will run without a diesel in sight!

    Our next trip, this Saturday 22 November, will not have a diesel anywhere in the train"
     
    Tommo3007 likes this.
  11. LMarsh1987

    LMarsh1987 Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    2,882
    Likes Received:
    3,590
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    TBC
    Location:
    Birmingham & Arley
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Roughly translated, Just to let you know, 4464 Bittern, will be accompanied by two 47's for turning purposes & heating.
     
  12. camraman

    camraman Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    646
    Likes Received:
    89
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Hemel Hempstead
     
  13. alastair

    alastair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2005
    Messages:
    1,233
    Likes Received:
    748
    I think thats the first time I can think of any railtour company making a point of announcing no diesel. Quite encouraging. RTC please copy
     
  14. mrKnowwun

    mrKnowwun Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,333
    Likes Received:
    2,758
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    West Byfleet
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    No-one has told NR yet. There is no path for the lone diesel out of there......
     
  15. leander

    leander Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2007
    Messages:
    801
    Likes Received:
    40
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wymington Beds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Went past Watford web cam on time NO DIESEL
     
  16. AMP

    AMP Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    269
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    It has been confirmed that on the return the train will terminate at Watford due to engineering works but worse the whole train will be turned at Chester and guess which way round the stock is......

    Andrew
     
  17. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    8,034
    Likes Received:
    7,612
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Train Maintainer for GTR at Hornsey
    Location:
    Letchworth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Bang on time through Berkhamsted. Confirmed no diesel, and dining at the front.
     
  18. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    35,121
    Likes Received:
    20,773
    Occupation:
    Training moles
    Location:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    What's the logic behind turning the whole train?
     
  19. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    16,510
    Likes Received:
    7,753
    Location:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I would imagine that it is probably quicker than hooking off and sending the loco round the triangle on its own, and will not leave a platform blocked with the stock (which the running round loco would also have to get past, thus occupying yet another track)
     
  20. ADB968008

    ADB968008 Guest

    It's ontime Northampton. Dining is at the front, where it belongs.
     

Share This Page