If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

5952 Cogan Hall

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by paullad1984, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. paullad1984

    paullad1984 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2007
    Messages:
    918
    Likes Received:
    428
    Just noticed this loco is up for sale, yet is listed on wikipedia as being owned by the cambrian trust?
     
  2. lil Bear

    lil Bear Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2006
    Messages:
    6,122
    Likes Received:
    1,655
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Railway Technician
    Location:
    8C / 5D / 27C / 71B
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Where is it listed as for sale ? It is owned by a group fronted by Ken Ryder who are hoping to restore it for use on the Cambrian Railway once that is reopened. They still retained this intention last year when a party made an enquiry as to its present situation.
     
  3. yec2521

    yec2521 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    1
    yeah i saw it up for sale too. theres loads of rolling stock up for sale. havent the 2 cambrian groups just merged?
     
  4. Avonside1563

    Avonside1563 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2007
    Messages:
    1,141
    Likes Received:
    244
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Bolton's Sidings, just behind the running shed!
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
  5. thegrimeater

    thegrimeater Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    504
    Likes Received:
    78
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Admin
    Location:
    Huntingdon/Sheringham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Nice little saddle tank for sale too.
     
  6. buseng

    buseng Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2005
    Messages:
    4,799
    Likes Received:
    349
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Tilehurst, Reading, Berks.
    It says "due to retirement" on the website.
     
  7. lil Bear

    lil Bear Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2006
    Messages:
    6,122
    Likes Received:
    1,655
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Railway Technician
    Location:
    8C / 5D / 27C / 71B
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Thanks. If only I had money for the Hall. Siphon G be very nice too.
     
  8. paullad1984

    paullad1984 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2007
    Messages:
    918
    Likes Received:
    428
    i quite fancy the 03, the tamper, the two GWR coaches and possibly the saddletank, dont think we'd have much use for a hall!
     
  9. dgraw

    dgraw New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kent
    I wonder what good Isabel would be to most preserved lines? Would it be able to haul a couple of MK1's easily or not? Would it be a popular loco or being an industrial be jerky to ride at any real speed as a lot of crews/passengers seem to feel?
    Just curious, the condition of the hall doesn't seem too bad, and the 03 looks very attractive even to a steam nut...here's to a lotto win!
     
  10. Peckett 2104

    Peckett 2104 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2008
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    2
    Occupation:
    Mobile Operations Manager
    Location:
    Sat under 5967 with a needle gun
    Im sure some of the smaller lines would bite your arm off for something like Isabel. Ideal little engine for a couple of coaches on a reasonable run. Never had the pleaseure of riding on on H-L before so not sure what the rides are like. Of course it would have to be painted black and have a fake BR number. (runs for cover)

    Anyone know what sort of condition its in?
     
  11. paullad1984

    paullad1984 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2007
    Messages:
    918
    Likes Received:
    428
    Not if my lotto win comes up first!
     
  12. ovbulleid

    ovbulleid Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2007
    Messages:
    899
    Likes Received:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    i sit behind my computer clicking on 'view active
    Location:
    i'd rather be in newcastle
    i saw isabel a few years ago when she was based at the swindon and cricklade (i'm sure it was isabel, my mistake if it wasn't), she seemed at ease pulling a couple of mk 1's there. the tanfield's stagshaw is of a similar design and never struggled on the banks. i'm trying to remember where isabel has been since the S&C, but she would certainly be a very useful engine for most small lines.
     
  13. dgraw

    dgraw New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Kent
    After a bit of research i've found that Isabel saw use on the cambrian santa trains handling a one coach train this christmas and was preserved at Radstock at the aborted S&D preservation attempt.
    Seems to be a useful locomotive that by the looks of it could do a smaller line wonders...East Somerset maybe?
     
  14. Kinghambranch

    Kinghambranch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    1,588
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    White Rose County
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Looking through the stock list advertisement brings back some memories! Pretty well all of Ken Ryder's rolling stock shown there, plus Odney and Ditcheat Manor (which his group also then owned) were based at Toddington on the Glos Warks Rly until around 1986. Cogan Hall departed from Barry Scrapyard to Toddington in September 1981 and was cosmetically restored. I believe it has also been on display at Swindon at some stage. I don't know how good a condition 5952 is in but it has been "protected" for quite a while. I expect that there is quite a cache of spares for it too (at least I would hope so for £40K). It would be good if the 2 ex-GWR coaches went to the WSR project but perhaps some of the stock might yet return to Toddington! Regrettably, I don't think I could stretch to the Hall at the moment (or ever!) but maybe one of the smaller wagons?
     
  15. Christopher125

    Christopher125 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,839
    Likes Received:
    558
    Location:
    Isle of Wight
    What does this mean for the Cambrian Railways Trust - has there been a falling out? This looks like a large amount of their rolling stock, if Isabel is sold they will have no steam loco.

    Chris
     
  16. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    16,510
    Likes Received:
    7,753
    Location:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Likewise if I remember correctly KR owns Llynclys station?
     
  17. green five

    green five Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2006
    Messages:
    6,596
    Likes Received:
    2,242
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hampshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I wonder if Jeremy Hoskings has looked at that site yet?
     
  18. brit70000

    brit70000 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2007
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    30
    Mr. Hosking already has a Hall
     
  19. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2006
    Messages:
    5,294
    Likes Received:
    3,596
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'd be surprised if the West Somerset weren't casting eyes at this Hall.
     
  20. Matt35027

    Matt35027 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    1,122
    Likes Received:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Builder
    Location:
    Near 74D
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Or maybe the SVR?
     

Share This Page