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4472 What colour

Discussion in 'National Railway Museum' started by 73129, May 8, 2008.

  1. richard_3672

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    The Flying Mr Blobby.

    Why does it matter? I mean, obviously in LNER livery (or BR).. But isn't it more important the bloody thing runs? It was a nice site and to be frank, I couldn't have given two shiny sh**es about the double chimney and smoke deflectors. It's just as simple to get rid of them in Photoshop for the sake of a photo.

    http://flickr.com/photos/standardtankri ... 544138883/
     
  2. IKB

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    Can I suggest naturally weathered red iron oxide!!!

    (Runs for cover)
     
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    BR black - everyone loves that colour!
     
  4. we do but what lining to use mixed traffic LMR perchance?
     
  5. Western Venturer

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    Perhaps they should send 60103 out in the same livery as when I saw it on test back in 1999.

    http://www.veoh.com/videos/v16054290ZTmjg43x

    Sorry quality of filming is not that good,I was still running up the platform when 4472 came in to sight.I didnt have my tripod with me either!!!!!Couldnt pan round with loco as I wanted to some body who came even later than me stood by my side!!
     
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    Not a bad idea actually, I think Tornado looks pretty smart in it's own grey colour scheme
     
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    As long as it doesnt have the web site address on the tender 8-[ ..........
     
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    i've said it before and i'll say it again. red and silver with VIRGIN written at an angle down the tender, red wheels and hazard wasp lines down the smokebox and bufferbeams. it would probably still manage to be more reliable than a pendolino....
     
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    At least travelling behind it you won't feel like you've been wedged into a midget submarine... probably a better chance of getting a seat too!
     
  10. Mr Davo

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    A quick visit to the NRM yesterday. The wheels have all been refurbished in lined apple green with red axles, so the livery looks like a done deal. I couldn't see the smoke deflectors anywhere, though.

    Nice to see the cylinders being put back on, though I was told the throatplate is the number one holdup at present.
     
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    The wheels have been painted for quite a while now, are all the drivers finally back under the frames or is there still just one pair in. The throat plate is the msot akward piece to shape and get exactly right, I can only imagine the work going into it but having seen 45428s take shape over many weeks of hammering by the boiler smiths.
     
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    This is how it was on Sunday...
     
  13. Mr Davo

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    So it's definitely Apple Green, sadly the TWO chimneys seem to be in the foreground of that photo, so that looks a done deal too.

    When I was last at the NRM, the 'explainer' told me of the problems getting the right material for the firebox, and the trouble making a new throatplate without the orginal jigs and machinery. In the 1970's I used to volunteer at Steamtown, when 4472 was there, there was a spare boiler for her standing on wooden blocks out near the turntable, reputed to come from Salmon Trout. What happened to that?
     
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    Hi

    If i am not mistaken flying scotsman has run with an A4 boiler but the NRM wanted the A3 boiler to go onto flying scotsman so thats whats being worked on by Ian Riley at his works.

    Alex
     
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    Anyone know if the vacuum brakes are going back on? Far more important (IMHO) than talking about the colour of the loco (runs for cover....)
     
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    I think no was the answer.....
     
  18. GHWood

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    Shame - I guess that means she won't be visiting preserved lines then unless they have air/ dual braked stock or want to hire it in (expensive, I would guess!). Still, I would imagine it can always be refitted sometime in the future?
     
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    So was she running the A4 boiler (from which A4?) when acquired by the NRM? Which boiler did Alan Pegler buy her with? Is the A3 boiler the 'spare' I was told came from Salmon Trout? - so many questions......
     
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    4472 had lost the vacuum gear before she came to the NRM, so it will not be going back on as it isn't there.

    As for the boiler, I THINK (but need to check) that the A3 boiler she was fitted with in the 60s came off Salmon Trout and I have no idea of the A4 boiler's id at the mo, but it was that fitted when she was acquired by the NRM. In a copy of "Steam For Scrap" there is a sad picture of Salmon Trout at either Doncaster or Darlington after stripping for use as 4472's spares. Not much left apart from wheels or frames, but at least it died for a good cause as it were...
     

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