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3801 Operations from 2021

Discussion in 'International Heritage Railways/Tramways' started by buzby2, Mar 14, 2021.

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    Not my videos of the official relaunch on Friday 12th March, at Sydney Central Station, with a train of invited guests to Rhodes station (16.58km/10Miles) plus subsequent runs over the weekend to Hurstville:
    Copyright Bevan Wall -
    Copyright Tulloch4801 - [Try creating a Safety Case for a heritage EMU (with open unbarred windows) pacing a steam loco hauling open windowed (unbarred) rolling stock on a UK main line. I realise the Australian loading gauge is much larger than the UK's but even so!
    Copyright Howie's Rail Videos -
    Copyright Howie's Rail Videos - [After 3801 had departed (on 13th March) hauling its shuttles to Hurstville (14.84km/just over 9 miles) then 5917 departed with The Kiama Picnic Train (119km/74Miles). Incidentally, the NSWGR water carriers (known locally as 'Water Gins') behind both locos carry around 7,000 gallons I believe.
    There's now loads more You Tube videos for you to enjoy of these runs over this (apparently) beautiful weekend.
     
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    Arrival at Hurstville:
    Apparently a little moist yesterday (Sunday 14th):
    Not my videos.
     
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    Includes footplate action on the Inaugural day: [copyright Transport Heritage NSW]
     
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    Historical video of 3801 from conception to relaunch: [not my video so don't blame me for the background music!]
     
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    Also check out "Round the World in a Steamy Haze" on YouTube (sorry I do not know how to post direct Youtube links like those above). This has some excellent footage of 3801 on the notorious Bethungra Spiral last Friday (9/4/21). It ran three shuttles up the spiral with 7+ a water gin and no diesel assistance. Sounds superb.

    Peter
     
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    Immediately below the youtube video screen to the right you should see a link marked "Share". Click this and it gives you several options including the URL with an invitation to copy it (and you can then paste it into your post). There seem to be several videos which appear based on your description and this is one.
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    Thanks, Robin - I must remember that. You've got the video I had in mind there. I gather that it was the first unassisted steam up the spiral since 3642 did it in 2014.

    Peter
     
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    https://www.visitcootamundra.com.au/bethungra-rail-spiral Basically, the ruling gradient on the new (1940's doubling) uphill line is 1 in 66 for around 8.9 km and the downhill (original single track) line remaining at the original 1 in 40!
    Only load 7, plus a 'water gin', seen behind 3801's drawbar but NSWGR vehicles are heavier than BR MkIs! Those in the tour rake have tare weights ranging from around 42 to 46 tonnes although I'm not sure how much heavier are the 12 wheeler vehicle(s). Can't see a wagon number for the 'water gin' but it's either 42.5 tonnes or 55 tonnes gross so suspect the all up trailing load is at least 450 tonnes gross and might be verging on 500 tonnes.
    All in all, 3801 is an impressive loco.
    EDIT - Not sure if it is a 'water gin' after all as I saw "ESSO" painted on the outer end. Puzzled!
    EDIT 2 - Further research ..... Apparently the gin is a former petroleum tanker, duly modified in the late 1990s, and accredited for use as a water carrier with wagon number L229. This is smaller than original NSWGR gins but carries sufficient water for The Cockatoo Run operation and has a lighter tare weight.
     
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    CORREECTION, ESSO Tanker is an 10,000 Gallon NTAF Oil Tank converted to use water, Gross weight of 76 tonnes, tare of 28.
    L229 is currently being used by Sydney Rail Services behind 5917.
    Cars used in the Train vary from 42 to 53 tonnes and by my calculations the train has a max weight of 388 Tonnes a light load for an Eighter, which are rated for about 600Tonne on a 1 in 60 (I think)
     
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    Many thanks for your corrections to my post and apologies for the mistaken gross train weight - although it's still much heavier than an equivalent length train on the UK network.
    Anyway, much appreciated. (I'm sure there used to be a Thumbs UP emoji but I can't find it - so a :) will have to suffice)
     

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