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Whitby to York Rail Link

Rasprava u 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' pokrenuta od 61624, 29. Rujan 2014..

  1. MarkinDurham

    MarkinDurham Well-Known Member

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    In fairness, that was apparently only because he couldn't get 10 people to back him when he stood for his own party (best NOT to ask...) - and UKIP needed a candidate for that particular ward...
     
  2. MarkinDurham

    MarkinDurham Well-Known Member

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    The York Press did, I think, with an article about it being published last year. It was spun very much towards how this would all be a 'good thing'. Then the paper started receiving threats from this mob when people started making use of the comments section under the article, pointing out issues such as the 3 level crossings that would have to go back at Pickering, and criticizing much of what else was proposed, so the paper took the easy way out & pulled the comments :( . Pity, really. What would be nice to see would be a follow-up piece to discredit them properly, particularly with the ever more outlandish things that are being aired...
     
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  3. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Looking at the Facebook pages it all appears to be linked back to UKIP and wider nationalist posts anyway?
     
  4. Shrink Proof

    Shrink Proof Well-Known Member

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    Well, Scarborough Borough Council do their utmost to run the area in much the same fashion as a banana republic...
     
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  5. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    The investment proposals in the line sound barmy , google VA GTI , the supposed Lab that is being set up in Whitby and nothing comes up . The money to now rebuild the link is coming from financiers who trade in loan notes and then have to invest their gains in other schemes . Conciliatory noises to the NYMR still sound that they will in effect change the line beyond all recognition

    None of it feels like it rings true with echoes of e-mail nigerian bank account and the like
     
  6. Maunsell man

    Maunsell man Well-Known Member

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    Haven't heard from Alf lately...
     
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  7. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

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    I miss him. :( and Mr Reeder!
     
  8. Woodster21

    Woodster21 Member

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    The VA-GTI baffles me - could someone ask the question on Facebook if there is a link to their website or any other details. The long rambling Facebook (identified in post 101) post by Richard Sequira is blue sky thinking, he appears on LinkedIn and "you can google his company.

    Peak Rail had a similar experience with the then owner of the Flying Scotsman - first it was going to Rowsley with a massive development on the sidings/ engine shed site, then the old wire works at Ambergate...and people were taken in by the smoked glass and mirrors
     
  9. MarkinDurham

    MarkinDurham Well-Known Member

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    That question has been asked before, Woodster21 - and answer came there none, other than some photos of some European blokes in the company of some blokes who appeared to be from the Far East...

    One can draw one's own conclusions from that...
     
  10. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

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    As a life member and shareholder I would quite like the railway to take legal action against this maniac and his chums. At the very least a few restraining orders must now be taken out against them.
     
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  11. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

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    Call his bluff I say (as one of those named!): he has provided ample rope to hang himself.
     
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  12. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

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    Also I'm sure that the press would lap up a story about a UKIP candidate threatening a charity and stalking its volunteers, so now would be a good time to make a few phone calls.
     
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  13. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

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    Quite so. It's time to put a stop to the antics of these fantasists once and for all; preferably before the election.
     
  14. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    So which of the many FB pages is this posted on please - I can't find it?

    I thought this was their FB? https://www.facebook.com/groups/353032798232190/

    Debuse states .....

    2, We the admins will not be entering into any personal attacks, on any member of this or any other group. We expect the same conduct from all members. We will not answer for Neil nor any of his previous actions. If Neil Kipling’s name is brought up on his group in any detrimental manner the and post will be removed and the poster warned .Following a second contravention the poster will be banned. If you have any issues of that nature please take them elsewhere, they are not welcome here.

    I assume he means "If Neil Kipling’s name is brought up on THIS group ...

    Maybe you could give us a list of all the FB groups and websites involved in this and who runs them, as I'm getting mighty confused. Ta
     
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  15. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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  16. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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  17. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    OK think I've got it! Also see Debuse & Co have two FB pages, an old and a new one, both similar title?
     
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  18. Standard 4MT

    Standard 4MT Member

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    It must be confusing for some keeping up with the various FB Groups 5-6 I believe active at last count.
    Posts get removed quicker than you can blink. The post put up by Sheff, that was originally posted when the prospective UKIP candidate for a Whitby ward was "removed" about 8 months ago, the exactly same post has been edited to remove certain references, but when you ask about it damaging the NYMR they say doubling the track whole route, bringing up to new standard to run at 40mph, and have a main line TOC run it, will not damage the NYMR in any way, what a croc of smelly stuff. When split they then continued same theme on new Group plus the original You Gov poll that both of the Groups seem to be pushing, as well as sharing same website where one holds copyright. Confused Yet? The simple fact is, it will damage any Heritage Railway, running 365 days a year with existing staff, who are mainly volunteers but not consulted, using new stock. There has been put forward a perfectly practicle alternative without damaging the NYMR using the existing Esk Valley line, with minimal expenditure, by comparison, you could get to York and London soon (via Virgin from Middlesborough) in a faster time than their admitingly shorter route, by making some trains on Esk valley semi fast not stopping at quite stations. Why do they want to destroy the NYMR? and their continued posting could damage custom and donations, mud sticks however untrue I'm afraid. Being one of the 5 receiving threats and Court action, named on various sites for friends and family to see, with pure rubbish and lies.
    Oh and I must be a fraud, according to them, as I post on Railway Forums not using my real name!
     
  19. Bean-counter

    Bean-counter Part of the furniture

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    Can I just say (AGAIN) - please don't give them the oxygen of publicity outside their small (121 member - and 2 of those may be the same person, ALLEGEDLY) Facebook Group by repeating their statements on this public Forum!

    Steven
     
  20. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

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    In the words of the late Linda Smith, I don't think they should be given the oxygen of oxygen.
     
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