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MellishR liked Sulzerman's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Getting the price right is critical. At just one carriage of extra passengers per day, £48.50 per seat, revenue over the season would be almost half a million. That's a high price point which may deter 100 people per day who would pay £40...
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MellishR liked Jark91's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Do services out of Whitby have to be steam? Could they not be diesel as standard with an upgrade to steam on days when there are enough locos fit and available? That would seem low-compromise. If you do a journey from Pickering through to Whitby...
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MellishR liked Kirk Oswald's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Absolutely correct to say that it's problematic to cover differing markets with a one-size-fits-all product but the overall footfall has declined so much that available custom is no longer large enough to divide between the NYMR and a franchisee....
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MellishR liked Jamessquared's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I just checked the Jacobite price, and it starts at £76, which isn't hugely more than the NYMR £50 or so. Admittedly there is not a great discount for children, but I guess they are not pitching the Jacobite as a family day out. And given they...
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MellishR liked Gladiator 5076's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
So do I understand you want the franchisee to convince the ORR to become an OAO to Middlesborough, or have I misunderstood. Not sure current Northern users would like NYMR type fares or the franchisee the government fares.
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MellishR liked Steve's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I go out for a bit and all hell breaks loose! Thanks Tom. :) After a minutes thought, whilst it is a reasonable idea, I don't think that it is practical. If the venture is to satisfy the demand it is going to require two train sets c/w locos....
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MellishR liked 35B's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
My hunch is that the situation at NYMR is complex, and they have problems with both volume and price. The changing price strategies have shown that their fares are already right at the top of what the market will stand, hence the discounting...
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MellishR liked jnc's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
If my memory is not failing me (which I cheerfully admit it might), ISTR people saying that the Whitby trains were a good share of the NYMR's income. Would they be able to charge a third-party enough to make up for that (lost, if this happened)...
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MellishR liked 21B's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Interesting thought from Tom. I think what it provokes is the question, “if another operator could make Whitby profitable why couldn’t the NYMR?” I think that the question might boil down to how high a ticket price the service could bear. And...
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MellishR liked 30567's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Agree. Maybe the question is--- why should it be any more commercial to separate out the Whitby than not? If you are going to run a service 300 miles from your base, I can see the case for subcontracting the loco operation and maintenance as WCR...
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MellishR liked 35B's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
My suspicion is not that there’s no way to operate steam economically to Whitby, but that the fundamental challenge is with the cost model of NYMR as a whole. While splitting the operation would force careful self examination, my fear would be...
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MellishR liked Jamessquared's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
So indulge an off-the-wall thought. I was thinking about the NYMR, and in particular the Whitby situation, which in many ways seems to be a 6 mile tail wagging an 18 mile dog. It struck me that from a passenger perspective, the Whitby operation...
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MellishR liked Jamessquared's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Yes, that was the tightest year - 73082, 80151, 541, 65 all year; 263 for the beginning of the year and 6989 from June. I guess technically there was a period between March and June when only four steam locos were available. The position has...
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MellishR liked Petra Wilde's post in the thread V2 4771 Green Arrow to return?.
Regarding the T1 group’s ambitions to set a new record (or, according to them, just a properly documented repeat one) - and does this need another thread? … Seems a good point about no suitable and available track of high enough quality being...
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MellishR liked Enterprise's post in the thread V2 4771 Green Arrow to return?.
Similarly, many British retain post-imperial delusions. Americans are on the same journey and will soon arrive. "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
8. Lipanj 2026. u 09:16
