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Discussion in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' started by Eightpot, May 20, 2016.

  1. Eightpot

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    On Doncaster station earlier this evening at about 18.20 a northbound HST went through. Point of note was that the London end power car appeared to have normal type side buffers. Is this a recent fitment, or did my eyes deceive me?
     
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    Four (I think) power cars were fitted with conventional buffers and couplers many years ago when they were used as substitute DVTs on ECML Class 91 hauled rakes.
     
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    Thanks, nice to know that I didn't imagine it.
     
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    Posted before but always worth another look.:)
     
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    6 (I think) were fitted and adapted to act as Driving Trailer cars when the first Class 91s were delivered some time before the Mark 4 coaches they were designed to haul.

    When the mark 4s were delivered, the HSTs returned to normal use but were also somewhat "problem children" I believe and ended up being sold off. Network Rail have 2 for the New Measurement Train ("The Flying Banana") and Grand Central got the other 4, along with some conventional ones. 18:20 at Doncaster sounds like a Grand Central working that picks up at York about 18:45.

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    I think having buffers improves their appearance, well, to me at least. Same goes for other DMUs and EMUs at the outermost ends.
     
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    If memory serves, 43013/014 (now yellow with NMT), 43065/067/068/080/084/123. They had some alarmingly non-standard wiring and the conversion to allow them to be remote-controlled from Class 91 via TDM was not exactly well documented. They were valued by Virgin West Coast in the early days post-privatisation for the Euston-Holyhead jobs, as the buffers made for an easy rescue when it all came to a grinding halt. Which happened fairly regularly back then.

    Porterbrook off-loaded the latter six to First Group; the deal lasted until First Group realised the slight problems. This led to a swap deal being done - and eventually GC ended up with them.
     
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    Wonderful for protecting those nose cones; I've always like this version.
     
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    Interesting to see the outcome of the recent Plymouth incident if it had been one of these.
    As I have read it the HST involved has received far more (hidden) damage than it looked.
    Could almost be a write off.
     
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    Wrong, wrong, wrong. HSTs look ridiculous with buffers. I'm reminded of Prince Charles's 'monstrous carbuncle on the face of a much loved friend'…

    You're all wrong.

    ;)

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    Reminds me of the new Army recruit who, on being pulled up about it, claimed that everyone else was out of step with him.
     
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    We could always put an HST in the British Library instead of the NRM.;)
     
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    Sadly I think it was the National Gallery, and even I think that's a bit of a reach for an HST, buffers or no buffers… ;)

    Simon
     
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    That'll teach me to rely on memory!
     
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