If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Flying Scotsman

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 73129, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. 35B

    35B Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    5,351
    Likes Received:
    3,298
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I observe that conditions at the Bluebell seemed rather easier.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    Jamessquared likes this.
  2. paulhitch

    paulhitch Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    1,701
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Now what was I saying about avoiding football supporterish comments?

    PH
     
    S.A.C. Martin likes this.
  3. BrightonBaltic

    BrightonBaltic Member Account Suspended

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    97
    Don't think the WSR has a 1-in-55 from a standing start, which surely negates any difficulty with the weather... 1-in-65 is the worst they have, and it begins a good mile out of Blue Anchor... plus, isn't sanding gear supposed to help out in poor conditions?

    PH, I am no football supporter of any kind. The fact is that Flying Scrapheap actually went up a jolly steep hill with a good load on, without assistance, perfectly well. Almost worth that 5 million quid...
     
  4. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    12,534
    Likes Received:
    12,622
    Location:
    21C102
    I wouldn't go that far - we did at least have the advantage of dry rail.

    Without having been on the footplate on the WSR, I wouldn't wish to second guess why they needed assistance. Certainly it can't have been a decision taken lightly, given the inevitable delays it would introduce on a high profile day. I only hope their passengers still enjoyed their day.

    Tom
     
    35B likes this.
  5. Copper-capped

    Copper-capped Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2017
    Messages:
    627
    Likes Received:
    664
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Stanthorpe, QLD, Australia
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    On a train hauled by the most famous loco in the world, a bit of drama, then rescued by one of Swindon's finest......What's not to like?!!

    :cool:
     
  6. paulhitch

    paulhitch Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    1,701
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Neither you nor I know anything about the details of curvature or any check rails at either venue. The worst railhead conditions are found where there is drizzle rather than heavy rain and where the route is under trees.

    PH
     
  7. Snifter

    Snifter Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    910
    Likes Received:
    2,023
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The weather was a mix of showers and drizzle with problems in the wooded area around Roebuck while running backwards. The sanders are for forward running only. Due to the timetable getting behind, a sensible operational decision was made to provide a banker on later services.

    The WSR boys have taken 1,000 tons up the hill out of Bishops Lydeard using "88" which would have been quite a sight.
     
    nick glanf and paulhitch like this.
  8. paulhitch

    paulhitch Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    1,701
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    As I suspected.

    Paul H
     
  9. michaelh

    michaelh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    2,384
    Likes Received:
    522
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Very comfortably early retired
    Location:
    1029
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Because of the requirements of the Public Contracts Regulations which translate the EU Procurement Directive into UK law.
     
  10. BrightonBaltic

    BrightonBaltic Member Account Suspended

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    97
    "Suspected", like some great sleuth? The weather is self-evident in the video.

    It appeared to be needing support up the hill forwards in the above video.
     
  11. The Saggin' Dragon

    The Saggin' Dragon Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    13,814
    Likes Received:
    4,161
    Location:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    And its not as if IR will not be able to tender for the work.
     
    S.A.C. Martin likes this.
  12. paulhitch

    paulhitch Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    1,701
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    If you had actually read properly what @Snifter had to say you would have noted that on account of problems early in the day, resulting in "timetable slippage" it had been decided to provide banking assistance on later services. Comparable "yah-booings to yours are found on the sound track to the video but aimed at the locomotive rather than the crews. These attitudes are seventy years out of date.

    PH
     
    35B and S.A.C. Martin like this.
  13. class8mikado

    class8mikado Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Messages:
    2,098
    Likes Received:
    394
    Occupation:
    Print Estimator/ Font of all knowledge (useful, or
    Location:
    Bingley W.Yorks.
    This line is notorious as a pacific tripper upper I believe. Surely a bolster wagon of Minky-cloth wielding FS fanatics could have been propelled to mitigate against these conditions...
     
  14. Chris86

    Chris86 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2011
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    160
    Occupation:
    Outdoor Pursuits and Technical rescue
    Location:
    Wherever the work is.
    I'm sure I have seen a video of 6024 coming g a cropper somewhere on the WSR.

    Without having been on the footplate, who are we to comment?

    Whilst it caused some timetable slippage I bet it was a rather exciting spectacle for passengers and line siders ( and no doubt the crews of 7820/6960)

    Chris
     
    paulhitch likes this.
  15. paulhitch

    paulhitch Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    1,701
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hayling Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Sensible stuff!! The only thing I would say is it emphasises what tourist railways really require to have are tank locomotives which tend to have back as well as forward sanding arrangements.

    Paul H
     
    andrewshimmin likes this.
  16. big.stu

    big.stu Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Messages:
    364
    Likes Received:
    248
    Occupation:
    Software Engineer
    Location:
    Cambridge
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Looks like significantly different railhead conditions to me though...apples and oranges and all that.
     
    Greenway likes this.
  17. Jimc

    Jimc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    2,303
    Likes Received:
    1,277
    Occupation:
    computers
    Location:
    SE England
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Much as we might gain a little gentle amusement "Locomotive doing something it isn't designed to do has adhesion problems in difficult track conditions" isn't a world shaking story:)
     
  18. Greenway

    Greenway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,356
    Likes Received:
    990
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South Hams
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Ah! but it seems to be the case nowadays with local hacks and wanabee reporters trawling Facebook/Twitter for 'news'. ;)
     
  19. Jimc

    Jimc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    2,303
    Likes Received:
    1,277
    Occupation:
    computers
    Location:
    SE England
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Maybe not every story has to be world shaking [grin]. If we can all spend as much time as we have discussing it, and bearing in mind all the other posts against the incident on Facebook and elsewhere, clearly it was *news*. Lets face it, "local kid caught nicking cars " isn't a worldshaking story either, but its reported often enough. There's no hint of safety issues or incorrect practice in the story, so it feels like reasonable publicity to me. I don't think I'd be unhappy to see it if I was WSR.
     
    Copper-capped likes this.
  20. std tank

    std tank Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    3,084
    Likes Received:
    282
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Liverpool
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    As do many tender locos.
     

Share This Page