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Kirtley, Wainwright & Maunsell designs for the S.E.C.R.

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I have added some new photos to the collection of SECR 01 Class
    Including this photo of
    31048 which made it into the B.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/yycgos6d
    New photos start here with S.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/y3kk6cof
    B.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/y4wfalc6


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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    The South Eastern and Chatham Railway (SECR) C Class is a class of 0-6-0 steam locomotive, designed by Harry Wainwright and built between 1900 and 1908. They were designed for freight duties, although occasionally used for passenger trains. They operated over the lines of the railway in London and south-east England until the early 1960s. One example was rebuilt as an S Class saddle tank. (more of which later)The SECR held trials in November 1898 to decide on a standard freight locomotive design. Two existing 0-6-0 locomotives were tested: former London, Chatham and Dover Railway B2 class No. 194 designed by William Kirtley; and former South Eastern Railway O class No. 436 designed by James Stirling. The Kirtley design proved superior and a new order for 40 locomotives based on it was placed. These new locomotives were designed by Harry Wainwright, the new Chief Mechanical Engineer of the railway, and formed the first of the C class
    The first fifteen locomotives were constructed by Neilson, Reid and Company and delivered in June 1900, followed by a further fifteen from Sharp, Stewart and Company. The remainder were built by the SECR workshops at Ashford (70 examples 1900-1908) and Longhedge Works (9 examples 1903-4)
    I have added 20 new photos to this collection including a few colour photos
    31458 unknown shed
    https://tinyurl.com/y6nby7kw
    S.E.C.R. & S.R. start here
    https://tinyurl.com/y4w7rhwd
    B.R. era start here
    https://tinyurl.com/y52zqj4q


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    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    In 1917 one example, no. 685 was converted into an S class 0-6-0ST for use as a heavy-duty shunter at Richborough port which was then being used to ship locomotives and armoured equipment to the Western Front. After the War it was used as a shunter at Bricklayers Arms until 1951

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    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

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    Again another excellent collection Neil. However you might want to transfer 93/109 (shown as loco 31068) from the C Class album to the O1 Class album. While 31068 was indeed a C Class loco the loco in the picture is clearly an O1 and is in fact 31065, now preserved and running on the Bluebell.

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    Hi Neil,

    A few thoughts and locations for the C class set.
    30/109 31268 Dover Priory
    72/109 1714 Stewarts Lane under the Atlantic Lines bridges. Longhedge Works buildings in the background.
    85/109 31498 Feltham ( Same background as 78/109.)
    92/109 31004 Stewarts Lane under the Atlantic Lines bridges. Furniture depository in the background behind the cab.
    96/109 31244 Paddock Wood before the downside buildings were demolished.

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    I have added some new photos to the collection of Wainwright’s SECR H Class 0-4-4T
    Including this photo of
    31328 ex works awaiting B.R. logos and smokebox number plate April 1949
    https://tinyurl.com/ojqxi4rh
    Full collection of new photos starts here with
    B.R. era
    31177 Tonbridge with the 9.38am Tonbridge to Maidstone West service 20th April 1957
    https://tinyurl.com/2wqn2g5a

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    Hi Neil,

    A few more identities to fill in
    43/122 31520 Ashford - see43/122 for shed behind loco
    46/12 31521 Wimbledon Dundonald Road LC on the Mitcham Jn line
    60/122 31553 Not Hawkhurst, I suspect Grain with those oil storage tanks.
    66 & 67/122 263 Ashford Steam Museum.
    73/122 1541 Clapham Jn West London Line platform 17
    75/122 1542 Oxted?
    117/122 31543 Hurst Green

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    Thanks Neil

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    I have added a new collection of photos of Maunsell D-1 4-4-0
    In 1913 Richard Maunsell started the rebuilding of 21 D Class locomotives with Belpaire fireboxes to produce the more powerful D1 class. These bigger engines were needed to cope with increasing loads on the Kent Coast Line through Chatham.
    Including this colour photo of
    31749 & sister loco with a double headed freight unknown location
    https://tinyurl.com/1bsgxax2
    & railtour duty for same loco
    31749 & 31786 Robertsbridge LCGB 'The South Eastern Limited' 11th June 1961
    https://tinyurl.com/yt46n2jg
    S.R. era starts here
    747 passing Ashford Signal Box
    https://tinyurl.com/ynsutbty
    B.R. era
    31145
    https://tinyurl.com/32bc73nh

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    19/55 31487 Tonbridge
    55/55 31749 London Bridge with the recently demolished Tooley Street offices in the background.

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    The South Eastern and Chatham Railway (SECR) P Class is a class of 0-6-0T steam locomotive designed by Harry Wainwright.
    They were inspired by and loosely based on, the more successful LB&SCR A1 Class "Terriers" and eight were built in 1909 and 1910. They were originally intended for lightweight passenger trains, to replace underpowered steam railmotors. Certain cost-saving design compromises had been made, compared to the Terrier design, and the P class were found to be underpowered, having only 73% of the Terrier's tractive effort. The P class were later re-allocated to shunting and station pilot duties.
    All eight locomotives passed into Southern Railway ownership at The Grouping in 1923, and into British Railways ownership at Nationalisation in 1948. Withdrawals took place between 1955 and 1961, but four examples have been preserved
    The first two locomotives, built in 1909, were numbered 753 and 754. The 1910-built locomotives re-used numbers of withdrawn locomotives and were numbered 27, 178, 323, 325, 555 and 558. In 1915, Two locomotives (27 and 753, known by the ROD as numbers 5027 and 5753 ) were transferred to the Government and used by the Railway Operating Division, arriving in France in May 1915. They were initially used during the construction of exchange sidings, and later to shunt the sidings and docks at Boulogne, but they proved to have insufficient power, and were returned to England in October 1916, to be replaced with the SECR T Class locomotive.
    All eight passed to the Southern Railway upon its formation in 1923, and were given an 'A' prefix to their SECR numbers. in 1925, A753 and A754 were renumbered A556 and A557. In 1923, the Southern abolished the number prefixes, and increased the P class numbers by 1000. Upon Nationalisation in 1948, British Railways added 30000 to their SR number.
    I have added a collection of photos of the P Class tank engines
    Including this photo of some push and pull shunting
    31555 Stewarts Lane 2nd August 1949
    https://tinyurl.com/2npg4f3e
    Full collection starts here with
    S.E.C.R. / S.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/3c8n2xl9
    B.R. era
    https://tinyurl.com/1scn2lqq

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