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Scotsman over the S&C Sat 27/11/21

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by GWR4707, Nov 25, 2021.

  1. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Just a quickie, has anyone got any ideas what sort of times this train is likely to be around Ribblehead either way, have reason to be fell walking in the area and wonder whether I can work around seeing the steam through?

    Edit, with a bit of searching about as there is nothing on RTT yet it appears to be due in to Carlisle at 1328 and then leaves again at 1614 so I can probably work around that albeit southbound will be dark anyway.
     
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    I'm told that it's now NR policy for FS hauled trains to not release the times until late the evening before.
     
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    OK so your schedule is

    0800 Horton in Ribblesdale
    0900 Penyghent
    1100 Ribblehead
    1130 Blea Moor box
    1300 Whernside
    1500 Ingleborough
    1700 Horton whoops it's dark.

    ....noting Sat weather forecast!
     
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    Not forgetting that it's via the WCML to Carnforth when FS is attached on the back for the run to Hellifield.
     
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    Done the three peaks way too many times, plus getting a bit too old for that caper.

    As its meeting up with a group of friends I have not seen since pre Covid I suspect too much refreshment will be taken this evening and the walk will be little beyond a walk up Pen-y-Ghent and either coming off back to Horton or following the 3 peaks route to Ribblehead.


    Thanks
     
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    Once was enough for me. When I see a footballer go down with cramp as if shot, I think of coming down off Ingleborough that day. Even Penyghent is a decent walk if it is blowing a gale. Anyway I see the timings were roughly right.
     
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    Mmmmm weather tomorrow?
     
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    Apparently cancelled but not surprisingly..
     
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    Where have you read that? Train appears to have left Manchester...
     
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    It said cancelled when I looked earlier on RTT..
     
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    Reports from on board, at the moment in Broughton loop but S&C is said to be closed so alternatives are being worked on, Skipton maybe?
     
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    Change of plans seems..
     
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    I guess that cancellation at very short notice was an option not considered as contacting the 350+ passengers would have been virtually impossible. So with the help of NR who already have so many problems it looks as though something is being sorted.
     
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    Scotsman still at Carnforth according to railcam data
     
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    Good luck to them.
    It looks like a good day to stay at home !


    Train operator affected
    Avanti West Coast; Merseyrail; Northern;
    Description

    Severe weather means that speed restrictions and line blocks may be in place across North West England today.

    The following routes are currently affected:

    • Trains are unable to run between Barrow-in-Furness and Lancaster / Carlisle. This is due to reported road conditions road transport is also not possible. Customers are advised NOT TO TRAVEL.
    • A train has hit an obstruction between Lockerbie and Carlisle meaning the line towards Preston. Trains may be delayed by up to 60 minutes.
    • A fallen tree is blocking the railway between Moreton and Hoylake. Trains may terminate / start at Birkenhead North. Replacement road transport is running between Birkenhead North and West Kirby. Road transport has been requested to run between Wigan Wallgate and Southport / Kirkby
    • Trains between Lichfield Trent Valley and Aston may be cancelled or delayed due to damage to the overhead electric wires.
    • Trains are currently unable to run between Wigan Wallgate and Southport / Kirkby due to debris on the track. Rail replacement buses are in operation between these stations, however journey times will be increased.
    • Trains running between Hooton and Chester will start / terminate at Hooton due to a fallen tree.
    • Lines between Warrington Bank Quay and Chester are currently blocked due to the severe weather.
    • Due to a fallen tree blocking the tracks between Birkenhead North and Wallasey Village the New Brighton line is disrupted. Train services to New Brighton will be terminated at and started back from Birkenhead North.
    • Lines closed between Bolton and Blackburn due to debris on the track, road replacement transport has been requested to run between these stations.
     
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    Carnforth Skipton also now reported closed, still sitting in Broughton loop.:(
     
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    All you need now is no heating....
     
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    Now going direct to Csrlisle over Shap. Return will same way back as original plan. Times I believe are on rtt .
     
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