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Salvaging tenders from the wreck of SS Thistlegorm?

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Corbs, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. Corbs

    Corbs Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure how I feel about this. Sure it would be good to preserve them but should we be salvaging wrecks?




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    groans ! :D
     
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    Joking aside, a friend of mine (who is qualified to undertake medical exams for diving certificates as well as being a diver himself) visited the wreck earlier this year and undertook both day and night dives. (Sadly I don't have any of the images he took for the remains of the 2 locos - I must ask him.) It is, apparently, one of the most popular dives in the World and much of the vessel's war cargo is still there. Some of the ship's company were killed when the Heinkel 111s bombed it and so the International diving community treats the site as a war grave as well as being a sealife reserve. No artifacts are to be removed from the wreck site (some items have been for sure but the practice is a no-no.) The Thistlegorm had a very short life, this being only her 4th voyage. She was built as an armed merchant vessel in 1940 and was a target of opportunity for the Luftwaffe, German intelligence having been alerted to a large road convoy in the desert, which was false information.
     
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    It would have been a plausible story and a good April fool except for the references to Facebook schemes.:)
     
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    Unlike the story!

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    I'm curious, would the loco's have received any service life before being shipped or were they built, tested and loaded straight out?
     
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    Some were built for the LMS and requisitioned by the WD. Others were built for the WD and lent to the LMS so were also 'used'. Others built for the WD were shipped as new.
    A total of 23 8F's were lost at sea and, as I can't just now, find the numbers of the ones on Thistlegorm, so can't tell you if they were new or not. 45170, one of the ex WD 8F's imported from Turkey a few years ago still had its 'on loan to the LMS' plate in the cab and the remains of the vac brake ejector pipe on the LHS of the smokebox. The other 45166? later re-exported to Israel was RHD from new.
    Ray.
     
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