If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Lakelander 14/8/19 (Saphos Trains)

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by Steamie Boxes, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. Steamie Boxes

    Steamie Boxes Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2017
    Messages:
    590
    Likes Received:
    334
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    With the train only next week, does anyone know what will be up front or will it be a repeat of last time using the Brit to Carlisle then the Black 5 round the coast
     
  2. acorb

    acorb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,839
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    Location:
    Powys
    Hope so! Don't think Royal Scot is back in one piece, certainly not had a test run.
     
    dopeyt likes this.
  3. mattspencer

    mattspencer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    1,742
    Likes Received:
    593
    Location:
    Rugby
  4. acorb

    acorb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,839
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    Location:
    Powys
    Didn't think the Brit fitted around the coast?
     
  5. Steamie Boxes

    Steamie Boxes Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2017
    Messages:
    590
    Likes Received:
    334
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Says on the saphos website, they’ve got Special Clearance for the coast
     
    acorb likes this.
  6. Mike Wylie

    Mike Wylie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2009
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    111
    First Brit down the Coast since 1967. Kingmoors allocation used to work down regularly before 12A and 12D shut 31st December 1967.
     
    5098 likes this.
  7. Fred Kerr

    Fred Kerr Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    7,435
    Likes Received:
    4,367
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Freelance photo - journalist
    Location:
    Southport
    But don't forget that 71000 has made more recent visits to the coast including 24/02/2007 and 3/07/2010
     
    mike1522 likes this.
  8. Mike Wylie

    Mike Wylie New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2009
    Messages:
    145
    Likes Received:
    111
    71000 has but no 'Brit' and as 71000 was never allocated up here, its visits weren't particularly significant. However a 'Brit' certainly is, especially on the M&C where they were regulars working out of 12A.
     
    lord stamp likes this.
  9. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2013
    Messages:
    2,551
    Likes Received:
    2,151
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Relaxingly retired
    Location:
    Deep in the country
    Rather hoped the 5 would do the coast again as a proving run before the Heart of Wales on Sept 7th. Has it run since the first Lakelander?
     
  10. 46229

    46229 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2017
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    153
    Location:
    Toddington
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Appalling timings for the return supplied late by NR. 4 hours in Carlisle, 1632 departure and 2320 arrival back in Crewe via various loops on the wcml and a 20 minute stop at Arnside.... same timetable as May, why the later path? Not good at all.
     
  11. Steamie Boxes

    Steamie Boxes Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2017
    Messages:
    590
    Likes Received:
    334
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I was going to go and see it at Ravenglass, but it’ll just have to be my local now
     
  12. 1020 Shireman

    1020 Shireman Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2013
    Messages:
    2,551
    Likes Received:
    2,151
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Relaxingly retired
    Location:
    Deep in the country
    Reminiscent of 'Days Out Ltd' days out!!
     
  13. acorb

    acorb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,839
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    Location:
    Powys
    Have to agree this is now a shocker and nearly 3 hours later than the outline timings. I had resigned myself to having to drive to Shrewsbury from Mid-Wales, last Cambrian connection is 20:10 off Crewe, but this now arrives after the last Shrewsbury service at 23:14!! So looks like a 2.5 hour drive home from Crewe after an unnecessary marathon. Crewe is a great starting point due to its rail connections across the country, it is useless if the train arrives back after these have all departed. I would imagine there will be many unhappy passengers at this result.
    Personally I would have preferred less time in Carlisle and earlier arrival back or (dare I say) if this was not feasible diesel back from Preston.
     
  14. Steamie Boxes

    Steamie Boxes Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2017
    Messages:
    590
    Likes Received:
    334
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I was thinking it would've been the same timings as the run in May
     
  15. acorb

    acorb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,839
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    Location:
    Powys
    Can't even jump ship at Preston. The last connection for Shrewsbury departs 10mins before the charter arrives at 21:43!!
     
  16. acorb

    acorb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,839
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    Location:
    Powys
    In May I think steam came off at Carnforth with diesel home, but I still think the timings should have been closer than these.
     
  17. 46229

    46229 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2017
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    153
    Location:
    Toddington
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Just advised by Saphos this has been retimed to 1330 off Carlisle 1930 back into Crewe which is much better. Well done Saphos - great customer service!
     
    acorb, 26D_M and 854tiger like this.
  18. iancawthorne

    iancawthorne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,612
    Likes Received:
    4,563
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brampton, Cumbria
    Good news. I guess the northbound will also be retimed. 12:33 arrival currently would be less than an hour to turn and service.
     
  19. 854tiger

    854tiger New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2013
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    50
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired but volunteering
    Location:
    Cotford St Luke, Somerset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Outward timings unchanged - slick operating required at Carlisle.....
     
  20. acorb

    acorb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    1,839
    Likes Received:
    1,525
    Location:
    Powys
    Glad to see some common sense has prevailed. Hopefully some brisk running over Shap will give a little longer in Carlisle, the support crew will need it that's for sure - unless LSL have some contacts in F1 Williams team! However, I should think they are also glad for a much earlier Crewe arrival.
    Thank you Saphos.
     
    26D_M likes this.

Share This Page