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2020 Cumbrian Mountain Expresses

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by mike1522, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. and60007

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    Thanks Ian :)
     
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    Take Tornado off and I'm with you on that.

    Nothing against Tornado. Just that I'm not a fan of double acts.
     
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    iancawthorne Part of the furniture

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    I'm inclined to agree and it would be far better to see No.9 go out running solo. Better than nothing at all though.
     
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    Pedant mode ON... You can have the final something or you can have the finale, but using both is tautology, since both mean basically the same thing. Pedant mode OFF.:)
     
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    I had to look-up 'tautology' but fully understood what @dublo6231 meant with 'a fitting final finale.' :D
     
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    Described as “Noteworthy” on Ian’s superb https://settlecarlislesteam.co.uk/ website, I think it’s worth highlighting a couple of the details behind this passing reference to 60532/ 60007 on NELPG’s "Wilton Enterprise" southbound run on 30th May 1998. As a 16P SuperPower event, the performance on the southbound climb to the Ais Gill Summit Board (MP259.75) was nothing short of simply stunning, and I would guess (but open to challenge!) unlikely to have ever been rivalled with a load equivalent to 11/ 435 gross as on this occasion. The headlines - even time just slightly bettered by a few seconds on the recognised 15.5 mile measured climbing section from Ormside Viaduct to MP259.75; and climbing speeds never falling below a mile-a-minute rate over the final six miles all the way to the Summit Board, passed at 62!

    Off the top of my head, this type of 16P double-headed combination is comparatively rare nowadays – one of the few (perhaps only?) recent examples I can think of was Pathfinder’s "Tamar Devonian" with its Tornado / KE1 combination over the Devon Banks in September 2010. And perhaps not to everyone’s taste – unrepresentative performance, honours shared, and all that. A couple of the preceding posts mulling the possibility of a UoSA/ Tornado combination hint in the direction of this sentiment too. But for fans who delight in searching for absolute outright performance records, (guilty as charged, I’m afraid!) I don’t think that this particular 1998 outing should go unremarked.
     
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    There was a double header with Tornado and Duke of Gloucester in 2012 I think.
     
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    Thanks for the mention @Where's Mazeppa? Certainly rare of the last decade or two, however 2019 was a slight exception to the rule with the 35018 + 61306 (total 13P) and 35018 + 46115 (total 15P) double headers. 6233 and 6201 have both been paired with 5043 over Shap. I will leave to the experts on how close 46115 + 35018 would be compared to 60007 + 60532!
     
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    Seeing as 45562 did Shap and the S&C thought this would qualify as a CME .

     
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    WCME on 28 Mar cancelled. Mail from RTC today.
     
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    not the best I can do 45562 passing Langho last Sat
    IMG_0138.JPG IMG_0132.JPG
     
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    Isn't that Ramsgreave and Wilpshire?
     
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    if u say so
     
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    It’s not ‘if he says so’, it IS Ramsgreave and Wilpshere...!

    James
     
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    I don't care what he or you says, its close enough to Langho for me sso just be glad there is a picture at all
     
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    In that case, may I applaud your shot of 60007 going through Dawlish.

    James
     
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    what is wrong with u people?
     
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    An awful lot. Some would call it insanity, but you might disagree with calling it that...

    James
     
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