NYMR goes west gala 26 - 28 September 2014

That would have been the other Lambton tank. That has a different water capacity but I'm not sure whether it's better or worse. Back in 1991, you couldn't leave the NYMR with your hearing in tact! I'm not sure why but they don't seem to have to work as hard now. Ah, well... I'n sure Nunney will have something to say about that!!

 

Same story just about everywhere really... Cost of coal, interpretation of 25mph, etc etc.

 

Hi there, what do you mean most unwestern western loco, agreed it was built by BR but it still has the copper and brass. Changing the subject, back in May I did a tour of some of our heritage railways. Great Central where I met your Lambton TanI k No 29 along with it's driver Chris,

Nothing to beat the bark of a GWR be it a twin or a 4 cylinder engine. I had the pleasure of a footplate trip on your fine railway back in May this year. Now I am Bristol born and lived in the West country for most of my life so it's a given thing that GWR is going to be a favourite for me. On the footplate trip I wore my West Somerset Railway cap, Chris of 29 Lambton Tank fame wasn't impressed with it. He told me " if a King or a Castle were to fall in the sea it would bloody well float" A Castle maybe but not a King well they are heavier,lol. Chris said " well they have 124 bloody corks that have to be seen to" his point was taken for a driver to get between the frames and deal with the two inside cylinders and motion couldn't been a favourite job. If any of you read this and see Chris please let him know it was an experience of a lifetime and how much I enjoyed it, now wouldn't it be good to do it on the footplate of Nunney Castle.

 

At the end of the day, the most impressive engines in Britain are Manors and Castles and possibly 6023, although I'm yet to see it in steam. There aren't any steam engines I don't like but I keep going back to these ones.

 

Must admit I have never seen a Manor running at full chat but 4053 on the Devon banks is something to behold. My black 5 footplate trip on the NYMR was something that I will never forget, the regulator was in the roof between Gromont and Goathland the main thing I did not like about the black 5 was the hooter and not a whistle. I can quite understand you going back to your favourites.

 

I really wish we could see 4053 on the Devon banks (5043 is pretty good though!).

 

What I mean by unwestern is it has no running plate and dosnt have inside motion its also rather fetching in LNWR Lined black....

 

No.5 carries quite a bit more water than 29. It's also the better of the two (when working) although Chris will tell you differently. Back in 1991 it was common to have eight coach trains but doing this takes its toll on the locos. Seven is the norm these days but still pushes loco and crew towards the limits with class 4 & 5. Eight coach trains might well return if recent passenger loadings continue.

You're not wrong. All noise and no action; typical GW.

 

Whoops!!!!! I was meaning Earl of Mount Edgecumbe, now I am going to look up what 4053 was. Well found it, it withdrawn 1954 from Wolverhampton Stafford Road. A 4-6-0 of the Star class, must agree would be good for it still to be complete.
Regards
Paul

 

OK, obviously my preaching whilst doing my missionary work fell on deaf ears. Tell me this though, when a loco went into the shed at Swindon for maintenance if bearings were measured and they were found to be just out of tolerance they were scrapped whereas other railway companies built up to the GWR tolerances and besides anything else with all that copper and brass they looked so good.lol

 

Thanks Steve - yes, I do need to come up again, last time we visited was five years ago when we were expecting our first child. Trips a long way from home to railway galas have decreased markedly since then!

Had a look at the gradient profile, and see what you mean about the height gain being about the same each way, so presumably the water requirement as well. Is there anywhere you can get water mid-way, or is it only at Grosmont and Pickering?

Tom

 

I'm pretty sure the (functioning) water towers are only at Pick and Grosmont, (there is an old water tower at Goathland but I'm not sure if its usable or when it was last used).

On the subject of the gradients etc - I sometimes wonder if the drive up from Levisham to Goathland might be more of a test of engine-man-ship than from Grosmont to Goathland. I know that the latter is 3 miles of 1 in 49 and that there are a couple of reverse curves and a speed restriction or two) but on the climb from Levisham there are several reverse curves, a constantly varying gradient and the potential for a stop at Newton Dale Halt which, on a cold, damp morning, might mean a tricky re-start.

I remember riding up that part of the Dale behind 76079 with her sanders making a real racket....

 

As I understand it, there is water available at Goathland, but unlike Pickering and Grosmont it is untreated mains water (It used to come from a reservoir on the moors) Also, the column is not well sited for Pickering bound trains. With the prospect of 80135 being back in traffic before too long I think that additional provision for water is likely to be made at Grosmont.

 

Timetables now on line - one Battersby run on Saturday leaves Whitby at 10.35 gets back to Whitby at 13.35.

Freights between Grosmont and Goathland on Saturday.

As ever, I can't wait to get up to the NYMR.

 

Ditto! I'm booked for Saturday. It seems from the website that 76079 will be working, as well as 75029. Both of these working at the same time should be something to see. The Battersby run is to be topped and tailed, steam hopefully on the Battersby end to lead out of Whitby, and diesel on the other end. Maybe D7628? We shall see.

John

 

If 80135 is to be used to Whitby, something will have to be done as it doesn't have sufficient water capacity to do Grosmont -Whitby - Pickering with any margin The likely option at the moment is the bringing in to regular use of Goathland water cranes.

 

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The trouble with 80135 using Goathland water crane in the up (?) direction is that it is currently at the end of the platform, which is only 3-4 coaches long. Stopping there would leave 3+ coaches hanging on the 1/49. It would be a shame to lose the crane at the end of the platform as it is a distinctive feature, so another would be needed 3-4 coach lengths further up.

 

If you look at the website it also says that 34101 is hoped to return to traffic in 2014 - there's a lot of hope and not much expectation in that. I'd like to be prove wrong, but the info I have suggests that 76079 is perhaps more likely for the Wartime Weeknd than the Gala. Should still be a great event though. Hopefully the LNERCA's Thompson TK 1623 will be available for viewing at Pickering - make sure you have a look (and stick a pound or few in the collecting tin!)

 

Do NYMR release loco diagrams before the event?