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6100 Royal Scot

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  1. Miff

    Miff Part of the furniture Friend

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    To re-phrase my previous post I would not be surprised if the terms and conditions of such a large grant required consultation with and/or approval of the HLF before any sale or transfer of ownership took place.
     
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    guycarr360 Part of the furniture

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    To re-phrase my previous post I would not be surprised if the terms and conditions of such a large grant required consultation with and/or approval of the HLF before any sale or transfer of ownership took place.

    In the HLF area I am active in, we cannot sell the area after completion of works, and at worst you have to have a 25 year lease on the land.

    The more I think about this the more I would expect the money to be paid back, or maybe a cast iron guarantee of 10 years work, within a set time span, transferred is a very ambiguous word....

    Suppose it also depends on who signed the project off, humble pie might come into the equation.
     
  3. Miff

    Miff Part of the furniture Friend

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    Yes, that is the kind of thing I would expect e.g. if Bressingham had gone bust the terms of the grant agreement would put HLF ahead of most other creditors for repayment. I would guess the Royal Scot & General Trust must have agreed similar or renegotiated terms and conditions before HLF allowed the transfer of ownership.
     
  4. Mike Delamar

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    The railway touring co brochure I have advertises the coast to coast express on 5th July 2014 as hauled by either 6100 or 6201, is there any news that 6100 could be ready for this? However the website does say either 70013 or 46233 for this railtour.
     
  5. Paul42

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    The website was revised after it was queried on here.
     
  6. ADB968008

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    RTC has advertised 6100 every year since 2009.
    Like a gambler always placing bets on Red, they will eventually get lucky.

    :)

    I can't wait for when they do.
     
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  7. Mike Delamar

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    thanks very much, I am travelling on that railtour regardless.
     
  8. ADB968008

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    Seems 6100 is getting towards the end of another full overhaul and looks set to replace 4464 on the mainline next year, suggested it might be in BR Green when it returns.
     
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  9. Sheff

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    Awww and I really loved it in pink :(
     
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    that makes sence, ,i mean 46100 replacing 4464, as regards painting it green, anything is better than Ward Pink, i assume this gentleman and others now have no say in the future of Royal Scot ,or any other engine .
     
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    Victor Nat Pres stalwart Friend

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    SHEFF, enough with the colours, first the P2 and now this............................ENOUGH.;)
     
  12. andalfi1

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    Would be nice to see her run as 46152 occasionally ?:)
     
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    ....would be nice to see her run!!
     
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  14. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Oh c'mom - you know you love a good livery froth :) Paint it Apple Green I saylike that Not-so-Black 5 at the BR livery trials ;) ...
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    When I was through Crewe by train the other day I'm sure 6100 was outside on a low loader??
     
  16. andalfi1

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    Wonder if they did a PINK one and named it Giles ? :p
     
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    Strange as it may seem I bought a book on Scottish Steam Locomotives and it included a picture of 61307 in lined BR Apple Green - so a Black 5 in said livery could have been under consideration in the early days of BR
     
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    Post war, new B1s were delivered painted in Apple Green in LNER days and following, nationalisation, this continued but with BRITISH RAILWAYS on the tender and the new number on the cab sides. Experimental liveries, including Apple Green, were applied to, I think, four Black Fives, but they were very short lived and common sense was soon restored.
     
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    No Fred, it actually happened.
    M4762 was painted in Southern Railway malachite green livery
    M4763 was painted in LNER apple green livery
    M4764 was painted in GWR green livery
    M5292 was painted in LNWR black.
    This happened in January 1948. Lining was applied to the LH sides only, initially.
    It is not known when they were repainted back to black, but 4762 was reported to be still in malachite green in 1952.
     
  20. ADB968008

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    And Patriots...

    If only this livery was to reappear on Galatea or Leander for a few months...

    http://www.ehattons.com/73887/Mainl...ker_in_BR_experimental_apple/StockDetail.aspx
     
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