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Winter Cumbrian Mountain Expresses 2014

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  1. dublo6231

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    Thanks for sharing the vids everyone - in total agreement with Big Al - a double header at this time of year over those northern hills just seems so right and not to mention sensible (though that's not to take anything away from any of the other tours coming up in this sequence) having read that the Winter CME's probably won't be running next year - time to get myself and my group booked on to one this year as soon as possible I think.
     
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    henrywinskill, Jan 25, 2014
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    As the Old Man says Ian a good set despite the weather
     
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    'The Winter Cumbrian Mountain Express' on the 25th January 2014 hauled by LNER B1 No.61264 on its first mainline passenger service and LMS 5MT No.45407 'The Lancashire Fusilier'. Seen climbing Shap on the outward trip and on the return at Birkett Common.

    Video Available Here
     
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    phil.sez, Jan 25, 2014
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    Lovely shot Phil but you must have your own sun!!!!
     
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    Cheers Henry & Shep.

    Glad you stuck it out for the return Simon.
     
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    cracking photos and videos from todays action heres my attempt from this morning and evening at Lostock junction



    Dave
     
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    Arrived Man Vic 20.00[​IMG]
     
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    Found this shot on youtube of the pair climbing Wilpshire on the return.

     
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    Cheers Henry and Shep, yes very lucky today, i thought we had no chance a few mins before.
     
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    Well a great start to our season up here and the usual excellent collection of stills and videos...
     
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    Brilliant footage Stephen, despite the conditions. Raced through Birkett in fine style especially.
     
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    A Great day out with two fine Loco's all re-lived by some wonderful video clips and still pictures -
    CME Carlisle b&w 25.01.2014.jpg big thanks to all for giving us travellers excellant views (from outside the train)
     
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    B1 pilots the Winter CME 25 January 2014

    In recent years the annual double header from Manchester to Carlisle and back has been the preserve of the Riley Black Fives. With No 44871 in the works, the ELR visitor LNER B1 4-6-0 No 61264 headed the train, with the purists content that the train engine was still an LMS one.

    With two support coaches we were load 13, but had some lively running from Bolton, briefly touching 60 before Euxton Junction. After Preston we skipped the Barton and Broughton looping, instead reaching 60 soon after then and maintaining it to Lancaster University - must have been 15 miles or so in even time. Slower through Lancaster but 58 at Hest Bank before the Carnforth water stop.

    We got away smartly, reaching 57 at Burton and Holme, 64 at Elmsfield, 63 at Milnthorpe and falling only to 54 at Oxenholme on the climb to Grayrigg. We were still doing 50 at Docker but then we slowed and were looped at Grayrigg for a late-running Voyager. We were swiftly away along the Lune Gorge and were doing 61 through Tebay at the bottom of Shap. We maintained 52 to Greenholme, 42 to Scout Green and 38 at Salterwath, with a minimum of 36 before Shap summit. From there we pushed our 60 mph limit all the way down to Carlisle, missing the Penrith loop and arriving well early.

    After a huge storm in Carlisle it was only damp as we set off again towards Ais Gill. We had a brief flash of 60 mph after Armathwaite, but kept being slowed by signals from the train ahead. After Appleby we reached 54 before Great Ormside, then after the Helm tunnel slowings, 52 at Smardale before getting stuck into the climb. We passed Kirkby Stephen at 42, Greengate at 45 and entered Birkett Tunnel at 41. We carried on plugging away up Mallerstang in the mid forties, reaching 49 at one point and slowing below 40 only in the last mile, with a minimum of 37 just before the summit. It was dark as we crossed Ribblehead viaduct but we had a final spurt down the dale, hitting 60 several times.

    The rest of the run was unremarkable apart from the climb from Whalley Viaduct, crossed at 37, up through Langho (31) and slogging on up to enter the tunnel at 29. A cold, dark, wet day had been illuminated by some fine performances by the mixed-traffic duo.

    20 pictures are at http://pjhtransportpix.zenfolio.com/p933859408

    Peter, on another cold damp morning in Manchester
    http://pjhtransportpix.zenfolio.com
     
    pjhliners, Jan 26, 2014
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    Thanks for bothering to put up a detailed commentary. These annual double headed efforts seldom disappoint and the B1 looks as though it was a worthy substitute. I think you'll find that the outward timings were tweaked to exclude a Penrith stop with a Carlisle arrival of 1137 - i.e. 62 min from Carnforth North Junc. That's a smartish schedule when you can only run downhill at 60. It's good that the pair showed that they were up for it.
     
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