mk 2 coaches at Dalton

At http://www.flickr.com/photos/45100355@N04/sets/72157626707135729/
there is a set of pictures of the Mk2 - 2e coaches at RAF Dalton

At http://www.flickr.com/photos/45100355@N04/5771563642/in/set-72157626707135729
it says '"They are up for auction shortly, but I fear the price of metal means they are going to the scrapman'".

At a posting at the bottom of the thread at
www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=61136
it says
"' All of the coaches had 'lot' nunbers allocated and the fella there reckoned that they were up for auction soon so will probably go to the great railway scrapyard in the sky......or the strategic reserve '"
AND
in another posting it says
"' [the Mk2 coaches] are for sale from this company if anyone wants one for their gardens
www.cwharrison.co.uk '"

When I messaged the guy who posted the pictures he replied as follows: -

"' Hello Alfred,

and thanks for your email, I am glad you like my photos.

When I visited the site, the old guy that runs the bus business from the same place told me they were going to be auctioned, this was backed up by most of the coaches having A4 printed signs stuck to them identifying the lot number, I found a website also for the aucitoneers, (but for the life of me cannot remember what it was now, sorry).

Its good to hear that some of the coaches will have a chance for preservation, many of them were in good condition, despite being sat outside at Sinderby for years. I think the thing I liked about the site was that you could see nearly every livery that the MK2 has worn over the years, it was like a step back in history.

regards

Ian. '"

(Via Flickr Mail)

This may be just a rumour (one of many.....)

But I thought you would be able to make the relevent enquiries and see if there is any truth in this.

It would be sad to see a large collection of recent Mk2s scrapped.

 

http://railways.national-preservation.com/showthread.php/31165-29-MK-2-carriages-for-auction

 

M2CPS1 = Dalton, Dalton Airfield Ind Estate, c/o John Smith Travel. SE 421764
M2CPS2 = Dalton, Dalton Airfield Ind Estate, c/o Dalton Transport Services. SE 426762


Number Other Number Class/Type Design Location Code
3152 6411, 977547 Bogie Open First Mk2c FO M2CPS1
3155 6415 Bogie Open First Mk2c FO M2CPS2
3161 6414 Bogie Open First Mk2c FO M2CPS2
3166 NIR903 Bogie Open First Mk2c FO M2CPS1
3167 6400 Bogie Open First Mk2c FO M2CPS1
3268 Bogie Open First Mk2e FO M2CPS1
5271 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2a TSO M2CPS1
5335 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2a TSO M2CPS1
5449 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2b TSO M2CPS1
5450 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2b TSO M2CPS1
5462 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2b TSO M2CPS1
5494 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2b TSO M2CPS1
5518 6510 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2b TSO M2CPS1
5520 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2b TSO M2CPS1
5739 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2d TSO M2CPS1
5841 977867 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2e TSO M2CPS1
5879 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2e TSO M2CPS1
6079 Set8204, 72641 Bogie Tourist Open Second Mk2f TSO M2CPS2
9435 Bogie Brake Open Second Mk2a BSO M2CPS1
9453 977787 Bogie Brake Open Second Mk2c BSO M2CPS2
9485 Bogie Brake Open Second Mk2d BSO M2CPS1
13438 Bogie Corridor First Mk2a FK M2CPS1
13442 Bogie Corridor First Mk2a FK M2CPS1
13575 Bogie Corridor First Mk2d FK M2CPS1
13581 Bogie Corridor First Mk2d FK M2CPS1
13583 Bogie Corridor First Mk2d FK M2CPS1
13585 Bogie Corridor First Mk2d FK M2CPS1
14033 17033, 977591 Bogie Corridor Brake First Mk2 BFK M2CPS2
14075 35510 Bogie Corridor Brake First Mk2a BFK M2CPS1
14106 17106, NIR915 Bogie Corridor Brake First Mk2b BFK M2CPS1
14110 17110, NIR914 Bogie Corridor Brake First Mk2b BFK M2CPS1
14148 17148 Bogie Corridor Brake First Mk2d BFK M2CPS2
14151 17151 Bogie Corridor Brake First Mk2d BFK M2CPS1
14164 17164 Bogie Corridor Brake First Mk2d BFK M2CPS2
821 548, 1970 Bogie Open Second M2CPS1
901 801 Bogie Open First M2CPS1

 

The sale has now been postphoned according to Harrisons being quoted.

 

Alf - Why don't you post this on WNXX?

 

Cos Alf is banned from WNXX for... well I don't need to explain why, you've seen his posts.

 

Does that mean the South Bedfordshire preserved railway network is not being taken seriously???

Mines a pepperoni...

 

Is that with asbestos shavings...?

 

Does anyone know of any MK2a compartment stock that might be going for scrap, apart from these coaches? Some LNER Thompson stock use Beclawat sliding door runners that seem to be identical to those in early Mk 2s and the LNERCA needs two such runners to complete Thompson TK 1623. The part that attaches to the door would be easy to make and we have discovered that the rubber wheels are available from Railpart, but the C channel attached to the corridor sidethat they run in might be difficult to have made. If we can obtain some ready-made examples that would save a lot of work.

 

Do all grow up, you act like you need an ambulence at your door....

The thread is about MK TWO COACHES, NOT personalities!

 

I have received the following e-mail r/e the Mk2s at Dalton: -

From: Auctions Department
Subject: RE: Mk 2s at Dalton
To: "'Alfred Roberts'"
Date: Wednesday, 21 September, 2011, 12:04

Alfred,

Thank you for your email. We have had no further instructions with regards to this matter.

Kind Regards

John Mosby
Auction Manager
C W Harrison

 

If it isn't here in 30 minutes, is it free?

 

Why are you bothering everyone over these coaches? Can you afford to buy them?

 

I do not even know if any of these are for sale!!!!

It was others who started the thread, not me!!!!!

Perhaps you should ask them?

 

That’s peculiar, since you are listed as the thread-starter on 17/09/11 at 3:05pm

 

To busy getting the pepperoni in!

 

the question that should being asked is, are the coaches restorable and for how much? Mk 2's have inbuilt corrosion problems being as they are monocoque construction are not an easy restoration compared to Mk1's we all know how to deal with mk1 and the ends rusting out, but has anyone yet done a heavy on a mk2? do you need to place the body in a gig if you have to remove structural framework , all ive ever done on Mk2's is to clean up and paint them green , the former green train was purchased in good mechanical and structural condition streight out of NSE service , i dont expect that any coaches that have been in storage will be as easy , and as the Mk 2 ages what else will come to light, i cant speek for other railways, but lately we are finding our mk1 coaches are needing more work than we expected with drawhook and buckeye pin problems becoming regular reworking items on every exam even before an 18 monthly becomes due meaning a coach lift and bogie out each time but when you think that even the youngest mk1 has to be 50 years old, the mk2 is only some 12years younger

 

Let's put this one to bed shall we:

1) the coaches are heavily stripped, since last year, all the MA sets, batteries, dynamos/alternators, copper has gone making them a lot of work to restore
2) Mk2 bodywork is perfectly repairable, the monoque construction really is a myth. Most of them however have been left without windows and doors making 90% of them fit for scrap only and the other 10% only if you were very desperate
3) the person who owns them has no interest in selling them whatsoever, they will all go for scrap to pay off his debts that he's amassed over the years

And finally, Alfred you have already done damage by making lots of pointless enquiries to people. Did you ever have any intention of purchasing these vehicles? If not why did you contact the auctioneer as you do the serious people absolutely no favours.

 

Felt this post should be reiterated. Please.