WELSH PONY 2013

Mr lewins change of heart could have something to do with TV money for a Victorian steam restoration project but could just be cynical.

 

So how much of these locos is actually original?

As an engineman myself, I'm intrigued by the comments about Palmerston offering a Victorian experience, and Prince not?

 

As much as you would expect on locomotives that are approaching their 150th birthday...

The most obvious differences between Victorian-style 'Palmerston' and 20thC improved 'Prince' relate to fuel used and cab size.

'Prince' is oil-fired and has an enlarged cab with increased headroom...

Whereas 'Palmerston' is coal-fired and has an original profile cab - suitable for Victorian scale engine crew. Which is why you'll see the engine driver sitting in the cab to drive the loco, while the fireman stands in the tender to shovel coal into the firebox...

 

TV money???

 

Think you'll find that's a bit of a scarlet mackerel...

 

Or a crimson cod..

 

For those who have followed the FR from the outset, I would hate to lose Prince in favour of the Pony. For many, the Alco is part of FR history now, and it is sad to see no plans for its re-instatement. If however, the Pony is to be rebuilt using money not available for other projects....great, let's have it

 

I'll buy the Alco instead if no-one wants her.

What is the TV money anyways...

 

Scarlet Mackerel... Crimson Cod... Red Herring...

There is no "TV money"!

 

Oh, well thats boring!! Hasn;'t been anything interesting about Steam on the TV for years...dang

 

Well, see the latest on the 'Lyd' thread then...

:cool1:

 

Yes there has, the other week there was a program about building a Nuclear Sub, these are steam powered.

 

Going back on topic.

I read about this in the last society mag I had, also studied the parlous state of the poor engine at the Quirks weekend. Everything above the running plate is no more than scrap.

Can anyone comment on the physical differences in the engine frames and running gear as 'is' compared to how they would have been as an open cab beastie?

'Restored' to its open cab form, but as previously suggested with a superheated boiler and perhaps hidden modern accoutrements it would certainly be an interesting machine. Though probably of no use whatsoever for pulling service trains.

With Palmerston and Prince about there is little point in restoring it as is. Prince must be bigger than a 'Large England' anyway, and sadly out of proportion with the silly high cab.

 

There was an update on the Welsh Highland Un-official guide website aka isengard today on Welsh Pony.

Regards

Duncan

 

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Welsh-Pony/101856683202216

 

If Welsh Pony got the restoration treatment before Mountaineer got an overhaul I think I'd cry.

 

If you have tears, prepare to shed them now.

 

I keep saying I'll take Mountaineer of the FRs hands if its such an issue!

 

Im glad Welsh Pony is having a chance at running, Mountaineer maybe a nice loco, but at least she has run within living memory, welsh pony hasnt.

 

You are 98% genetically indentical to an Ape, it's the little things that make the difference.