New builds?

Can anyone put together a list of current new builds (SG and NG), their current state of play and location?
There seems to be more and more of them - a promising development for the future of steam traction...

 

Lets start:

Tornado
Lyd
Lyn


Copy the list and add your input

 

6880 Betton Grange
45551 Unknown Warrior
32424 Beachy Head
72010 Hengist
82045
G5
1014 County of Glamorgan
2999 Lady of Legend
84030
Railmotor
2x B17

 

Updated and added a few

Completed and / or has run in preservation or replica display

Rocket (Multiple in multiple places)
Sans Peril (NRM)
Locomotion (NRM & SVR)
Iron Duke (GWS)
Planet (MOSI)
River Mite ? (the one exported to Japan)
Black Motor (MHR)
9351 (GWR / WSR)
60163 (NRM)
3041 (Windsor)
Bloomer Replica (Wolverton)

D5901 ? (rank outsider) (DPS), Working Power Unit being installed in a Class 37

Very Advanced (Most major parts exist and / or have been assembled)

Railmotor, GWS
670 LNWR Bloomer (TYS)
G5 --> Darlington
2999 Lady of Legend, GWS, (picture below)
6880 Betton Grange, Llangollen
1014 County of Glamorgan, GWS
84030, Bluebell
Lyd, Ffestiniog


In development (Some major parts exist)

32424 Beachy Head, Bluebell
72010 Hengist, Dorset
82045, SVR
Holden F5 (EOR)
45551 Unknown Warrior, Llangollen

Begining (Little exists)
2x B17, NNR
Ivatt 4-4-2 Olympic 2012, GNS
Lyn, Lynton

Designs, Rumours and Conjecture
5AT 4-6-0
91xxx 2-8-2
LNER P2
MGN Atlantic
Fleet of new Panniers

 

Catch Me Who Can

 

boldford mentions "Catch Me Who Can", and it was so interesting earlier this year to see said replica steaming away, even though up on blocks, alongside 71000 at Bridgnorth shed during members day.
Truly the first and...well I was going to say "the last", but I had better say "the ultimate in British passenger steam locomotive development", 1808 - 1954.

I stood for a while and pondered just how far locomotive development has taken us.

46118

 

Iron Duke was NRM I think, but Firefly was mainly built at Didcot by the Firefly trust.

 

The Steam Elephant (Beamish)

http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/2 ... 612136.jpg

Puffing Billy (Beamish)

http://www.freefoto.com/images/1008/34/ ... ve_web.jpg

 

A few more complete post preservation new builds.

River Mite (R&ER)
Northern Rock (R&ER)
Northern Rock II (in Japan built R&ER)
Cumbria (in Japan built R&ER)
Earl of Merioneth (FR)
David Lloyd George (FR)
Taliesin (FR)
Spitfire (BVR)
Thunderer (BVR)
Blickling Hall (BVR)
Mark Timothy (BVR)
Stafold (Hunslet Engine co)
Jack Lane (Hunslet Engine co)
Howard (Hunslet Engine co)
Corris No 7 (Corris Railway)
Effie (CCLR)
Ursula (Perrygrove)
Katie (Eaton Hall)
About a million Exmoor locos in various places.

Tim

 

And of course Corris No 10 Falcon class in the early planning stage

 

black motor? you mean an Austerity without its tank and a tender behind I guess....? hardly representative of a black motor Id have thought...

 

If you're including narrow gauge, there is 'Annie' at the Groudle Glen, not to mention the two recent German new-builds.

 

Two Narrow Guage builds are Jack Lane and Staffold

 

Well, I suppose this'll have to do until someone decides to build one from scratch. Even a lookalike is an interesting proposition ( although I can hear the word "waste of a good locomotive" being whispered in the background!)...

 

Well, I suppose this'll have to do until someone decides to build one from scratch. Even a lookalike is an interesting proposition ( although I can hear the word "waste of a good locomotive" being whispered in the background!)...[/quote:35qbwdy1]

OTT it is, and austerity with a tender and a black motor number is still an austerity but with a tender and a black motor number! It would be VERY nice to see a genuine 700 but unless one is actually built then we won't see one. ](*,) And i thought painting them in BR black was bad enough.

Back on topic if we are to include 'modern' traction there is the electric Polar Bear on the Groudle Glen. And the BR 2mt thats going to be butchered to look like a BR 2mt tank.

 

Well, I suppose this'll have to do until someone decides to build one from scratch. Even a lookalike is an interesting proposition ( although I can hear the word "waste of a good locomotive" being whispered in the background!)...[/quote:7paophup]

... except that anyone who thinks that a butchered austerity looks like a Black Motor has evidently never seen a Black Motor, and has no concern for the austerity.

A proper Black Motor would be an interesting new build: it shares a lot of major components (boiler, cylinders, driving wheels, motion) with both an M7 (which exists) and a K10 4-4-0 (which doesn't), so there would be certain economies whereby you could do two extinct classes and help support a third existing class with spares from just a single set of patterns etc. (And my knowledge of such things is sketchier, but I suspect certain extinct Scottish classes designed by either Dugald or Peter Drummond probably also share a fair number of components, further reducing costs if some kind of semi-batch build was planned). Plus, being a relatively simple, moderately sized engine, it would be the right size and power for all but the biggest heritage lines - and probably even on those ideal out of season.

A key question when thinking of new builds (I'm talking standard gauge here; I don't know much about narrow gauge or miniature) is what are the desirable characteristics? Obviously there are operational ones (such as "is it the right size for what I have in mind?" - no good building Tornado if your planned use is on a 2 mile branch line); general functional ones (such as "we need a modern, lightweight 2-6-2T with good route availability and crew-friendly features like rocking grates and mechanical lubricators" - which is a crude paraphrase of some of the thinking that resulted in 82045) and specific project ones (such as "We have a suitable boiler to build a Brighton Atlantic").

But beyond that, there are aesthetic considerations. I'd venture to suggest that any new build should provide the same sensations as the original you are replicating. So it should look like the original (even if there are visually hidden differences, like the fabricated rather than cast cylinders on Beachy Head); sound like the original (which means same boiler pressure, draughting arrangements, valve events and so on); perform like the original (which means the same boiler parameters such as firebox size and shape, same steam passages and cylinders and motion) etc. On those criteria, however useful a tender engine austerity may be; it in no way gives an impression of a Black Motor: it looks completely different, will sound different and perform differently. It may be a decent engine in its own right; but under no manner or means can you say it is representative of a Black Motor, whatever number you paint on the side!

Tom

 

Butchery usually involves removing parts, not adding them!

 

Quite correct sir. On that subject has anything happened with that project?

 

Various bits and bobs have been collected for the conversion, but nothing else.