North Norfolk Railway General Discussion

Great news regarding 76084, she will be overhauled at Weybourne and spend her next ten years in service on the NNR.

https://nnrailway.co.uk/76084-long-...RQs07TlvKvr&brid=YWdncwGhtSlRVYhzGlBvLFk68saO

 

Over the next few years there could be the possibility of having a steam fleet of the B12, Y14, N2, 80080, 76084 and the saddle tank locomotives. I’d imagine that’s a pretty ideal fleet for the NNR’s needs.

With the WD going out of service, the 7F having left the line, and the possibility of Black Prince staying on display at Bressingham for the long term, maybe a move to mid-sized and smaller locomotives is the right direction to take.

 

I must have missed it, but where’s the 7F gone?

 

Back to Butterley for overhaul.

 

Any decisions post overhaul?

 

https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/s-d-7f-53809-13809-restoration.1425976/

 

Where does the assumption that 80080 will be on the NNR long term come from? I can't see it staying on the NNR once its next major overhaul is due, it's owners are Butterley-based and it has been a popular hire engine for other railways too. I wonder, too, what the long term future is for Black Prince? If the NNR management really want a 2-10-0, I'd have thought that a better
alternative by be to sell 90775 and use the proceeds to rebuild Black Prince. Depending on finances at the time, the NYMR ought to be interested in the WD as another oil firing candidate. That's just my theory, though and I don't suppose anyone, anywhere, shares it!

 

80080 will be at the NNR until at least 2030: https://nnrailway.co.uk/portfolio-items/br-standard-4mt-tank-engine-80080/

 

That's only four years more! What happens beyond that, though? 76084 could be back by then (or almost) - do they need another standard class 4 if the B12 is back by then?

 

I don't know. I was just answering your question.
If you have a strong interest, why not email the NNR directly?

 

I don't have an interest. I have an opinion, that they are unlikely to be interested in, so why bother them? ~If "they" do read this forum, can read and the idea interests them, well it's already available and in their hands to do something with.

 

I had classed the 5 year stay of 80080 as ‘long term’. The NNR statement says that the overhaul of ‘84 could take around 2 years, so there could be a chance of seeing the two types of Standard 4 running together. Who knows, maybe 80080 could return to the NNR after overhaul, but that’s just me hoping.

Personally, I think ‘84 and ‘80 are perhaps more practical for the NNR than the two 2-10-0s, though the larger engines are undeniably popular with Joe Public, whether more so than say the B12 or Y14 I don’t know.

With the WD owned by the M&GN Society, and the NNR owning BP, I don’t know if selling one to finance the other would be straightforward. There has been no indication of either organisation wanting to sell anyway. BP is safely undercover, better than sat in a siding in the open air.

 

When visiting last summer in the dry spell, the 2-10-0 austerity and the gw 2-8-0 tank were running. According to the staff member we spoke to, this was because they were less of a fire risk as they were worked less hard, so threw less sparks.

Something to consider in dry times

 

Very interesting point. Also there have been arguments about running large locomotives comfortably within their limits versus thrashing small industrials to their limits.

 

Hopefully the B12 will return to service next year, followed by the Y14 entering the works for overhaul. Potential for three ex LNER locomotives in operation together on the line.

 

The Y14 should be entering the works shorty as the team that worked on the N2 will now work on the Y14.

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In the same way railways like the Bluebell, Severn Valley and Worth Valley keep parts of their fleet under cover and on display long term whilst awaiting overhaul, I feel this is the best option for BP. Bressingham could be an ideal location for any NNR locomotives awaiting overhaul due to lack of funds/workshop space.

 

Yes; also, one of the best reasons to keep things undercover is that it greatly retards decay, which will have to be rectified eventually, taking money and effort. Of course, providing covered storage also takes money and effort, which can't be applied elsewhere. TANSTAAFL!

Noel

 

At least three individuals that could be considered as "they" read this thread, but I don't think it's too rude to suggest that this forum isn't the primary source for the railway's motive power assessment!

Having said that, there's no problem with discussing and debating any fleet provided it remains amicable.

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Certainly didn’t mean to cause any offence with my speculation.