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The 10A Allocation

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by GWR4707, Apr 8, 2019.

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  1. Johnb

    Johnb Nat Pres stalwart

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    There is no ORR regulation on train braking. The Vintage Trains fleet is vacuum braked
     
    Johnb, Mar 24, 2026 at 4:59 PM
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    Didn't say there was, and I've travelled with Vintage Trains many times.Where WCR fail to meet ORR requirements is on CDL, not fitted to their Mk1s and therefore not compliant. Most WCR locos (not all) are vac only and by default not compatible with the current WCR mainline stock which are predominantly air. QED.
     
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    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

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    There is no QED, the locos meet the operating requirements for vacuum braked stock.
    They are two separate requirements.
     
    Gladiator 5076, Mar 24, 2026 at 5:30 PM
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    SPM82B, Mar 24, 2026 at 6:05 PM
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    Yea that was noted yesterday.
    Certainly looks like an emergency release for CDL.
    I know people have commented saying there’s a lack of side lights (BILs) but they aren’t mandatory at every door.
     
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  6. Jamessquared

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    I guess the point being made is that the vac-braked locos and the air-braked stock are both independently compliant with mainline regulations, but are incompatible with each other. While at the same time, the carriages that are compatible with the locos don't meet the compliance standard for mainline operation.

    Tom
     
    Jamessquared, Mar 24, 2026 at 8:01 PM
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  8. Romsey

    Romsey Part of the furniture

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    They don't need to be large chunky lights similar to those on modern multiple units. The door interlock lights on the Belmond Pullmans are small and discrete to match the rolling stock.

    Cheers, Neil
     
    Romsey, Mar 26, 2026 at 12:55 PM
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  9. GWR4707

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    I assume that’s also the case with the VT rake as I've often wondered where the external lights are on those as they are not obvious from pics/video?
     
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    Not every vehicle has to be fitted as far as I am aware. There needs to be an external light which goes out when the whole train is locked, but the main feature is the door interlock light on the guards door panel.
     
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    Issue 343 of Heritage Railway, page 8 there is a report of 76017 going out of service at KESR which stated the loco was expected to depart for overhaul at Carnforth. Is anyone with knowledge able to confirm or refute?
     
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