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Saphos Trains 2026

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by GWR7812, Oct 7, 2025.

  1. 46203

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  2. Sidmouth

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    some tours do come up as sold out but I havent kept a record of how many. Equally some anecdoetal tales maybe suggest different . Only LSL know what capacity the trains run at along with a measure of the profitability of each tour and each destination . it would be not unreasonable business activity to focus on the destinations and start points generating the best return but also the ones that are more straightforward to operate .
     
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    It will be interesting to see if SRPS fill any of the Scottish gaps. Given several of their charters were cancelled due to poor demand perhaps they have concluded the market was saturated this year.
     
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    Having twice seen 60007 at Waverley this summer I’m disappointed but not surprised that there are no Edinburgh trips in the Saphos programme next year as only 3 out of 6 ran (1 of the others 3 ran diesel hauled) and the others all had 60007 on them. Saying that there was huge disappointment in the cancellation of the SRPS steam trips this year. Here’s hoping that either (or both of) 60007/60532 reach Aberdeen next year given that both of them have links to the Granite City. Aberdeen has been massively under utilised for steam in the past few years and I hope there is more steam to Aberdeen next year although I doubt it because of perhaps a lack of market interest.
     
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    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    I hadn't realised that Saphos have that policy. It makes VT's policy, where a solo passenger cannot book a place at a table for two, seem ever stranger.
     
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    Something weird I've noticed on the newly published 2026 Saphos Brochure that Mayflower isn't listed under the locomotives section. Is Mayflower about to go out of ticket or just simply just been left out for some unexplained reason?
     
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    Oh I was purely interested in the 50/55 trips
     
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    Novembers Duke trip had a standard class pressure vent Mk2, so opening windows
     
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    indeed yes, I was in that coach
     
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    Perhaps the marketing was poorly thought out. As one prepared to book at the last minute due to domestic arrangements I had already arranged accommodation for the week (fortunately with relatives) to photograph the Fife Circle and travel to Aberdeen. I wonder how many others were leaving it until the last minute before booking and whether gearing it to the Edinburgh Festival market was the right market to target.
     
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    Do you really think Railtour organisers are going to rely on people who suggest they’re “prepared to book at the last minute” in their decision as to whether a Railtour is viable? Wake up…
     
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    sorry Fred but that is a poor comment . Railtour companies need tickets sold and bums on seats . Decisions have to be made before large losses get incurred and relying on the lottery of last minutes bookings is an absolute recipe for disaster
     
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    I think that if Saphos offers a few more trains like this (or 71000's recent unassisted run to Carlisle), last-minute bookings aren't going to be an issue. Sadly I live rather too far south to contemplate one of these trips, but I'm just hoping that someone will point out to the powers-that-be in LSL/Saphos that 2026 marks the 60th anniversary of 60532's somewhat less-than-successful encounter with Honiton Bank. I for one would not wait to the last minute to book a seat on an unassisted run over the L&SWR West of England line behind this loco.
     
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    It would be a real help if the Tour operators, charter TOCs and Network Rail could get their act together on providing confirmed timings for a tour months/weeks instead of days in advance. Sometimes it's been as little as one day before, in the case of the recent VT trips).

    It doesn't encourage people to book early if you don't know if a tour is going to be doable in a day from home, or is going to need extra spending on hotels before/after, (especially if you rely on public transport or a long drive to reach a pickup location).
    At least officially, there's no recourse for passengers if the actual timings turn out to be wildly difficult to what was originally proposed, so it's no wonder some of us have to leave booking until the last minute.

    I have, however, booked the Blue Peter run in Feb, along with accommodation.
    Offer an attractive option at a reasonable price and people will make the effort!
     
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    Network Rail has a standard timetable for bids to be put to them to run charters. It's down to each TOC to do that and there is plenty of time, as I understand it. I think you will find that the 'confirmed' timings depend on how good the proposed times are that are submitted by the TOC. The nightmare for NR will be when they come to look at the timings to allocate the paths (and I don't imagine that this is at the top of their agenda) they then find that it is a poor 'fit' leading to them to have to make last minutes changes...that also may not be at the top of their agenda.

    So what I'm saying is that the simplicity that some folk hope for is not in practice, simple at all!
     
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    Then imagine the complexity of say the Great Britain, 10 days if you include movements the day before and day after.
     
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    This is not the case (on the two the "Shap Trials II" tours), £165 for a solo seat on a table for two.
     
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    I think the statement could be super caution, the plan is no diesel. I think the "requested" maybe because even in March/April 2025 we were looking at fire risk issues. The entire concept of these tours is built on the success of the 71000 tour so no diesel in the plan.
     
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    Which tours are those? They're not on the VT website.
     
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    Saphos, not VT.
     

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