If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Liveries!

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 61624, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,332
    Likes Received:
    11,667
    Occupation:
    Nosy aren’t you?
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    There’s a piece in ‘Grime and Glory’ by Adrian Vaughn about how in the late 19th Century Paddington looked like it had 2 different companies serving it as the loco’s from the Northern (Wolverhampton) and Southern (Swindon) division had different liveries. I think this was also something to do with the gauge war?

    It appears there was a North/South divide even in Victorian times. Where did the poor chap in charge of Worcester fit in? :)
     
    andrewshimmin and Jamessquared like this.
  2. JorgeR

    JorgeR New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    22
    Apologies if already covered: has there ever been talk about returning any of the Vale of Rheidol locos to BR Blue livery?
     
  3. Jimc

    Jimc Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Messages:
    4,052
    Likes Received:
    4,665
    Occupation:
    Once computers, now part time writer I suppose.
    Location:
    SE England
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Very much in the GWR case. All about, I think, personalities and promotions.
    Joseph and George Armstrong were brothers, and came to the GWR when the Northern division was formed with amalgamations/takeovers. They tended to run it as a continuation of the amalagamated lines. Joseph was promoted to take charge of Swindon after Gooch resigned, and may one say 'went native', while George took over at Wolverhampton and continued as before. Dean was George's assistant at Wolverhampton. Dean then was promoted as Joseph's assistant at Swindon. Joseph died in harness at 60, and Dean was appointed as Locomotive Superintendant - effectively placing him over George's head. It seems fairly clear that George was not happy about the thought of taking orders from his former junior, and maybe there was some thought that the 55 year old George wouldn't be there for ever. In any case Dean seems to have tactfully restrained from giving too many instructions to his former boss. In the event George was in post for another 20 years! When he eventually retired Churchward was already positioned as Dean's successor, and Wolverhampton independence rapidly diminished.
     
    Robin, andrewshimmin, 240P15 and 5 others like this.
  4. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    26,105
    Likes Received:
    57,438
    Location:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    It always amuses me that at the end of the nineteenth century, LCDR locomotive livery was black with blue and grey lining. SER livery was also black with vermillion lining. And then they amalgamated and came out with a livery that looks like Wainwright took his inspiration from a tart's boudoir while dropping copious quantities of acid ...

    It is very splendid though, particularly when next to the dark lake carriages.

    Tom
     
  5. Cartman

    Cartman Well-Known Member Account Suspended

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    1,672
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Van driver
    Location:
    Cheshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The Southerns olive green with the large numbers I liked, prefer it to the later malachite green.
     
    3ABescot and andrewshimmin like this.
  6. 30854

    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2017
    Messages:
    12,172
    Likes Received:
    11,493
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Brighton&Hove
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Malachite is always a tricky colour to nail down. I was watching a recent YT! clip of the IWSR [14th May 11'35"] and watching W24 exiting Haven Street (Rydewards) with the bogie set, all in malachite ..... in bright sunshine ..... clearly demonstrates this quality:

     
    Cartman likes this.
  7. 35B

    35B Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    25,496
    Likes Received:
    23,735
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Considering the bit in bold, do you have some skeletons that need bringing out of the closet?
     
    MattA, Cartman, LMS2968 and 1 other person like this.
  8. Cartman

    Cartman Well-Known Member Account Suspended

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    1,672
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Van driver
    Location:
    Cheshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The Midland and LMS red was smart too. I also like the Caleys blue, and the GER.
     
  9. D1002

    D1002 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Messages:
    8,659
    Likes Received:
    6,415
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Enfield
    I remember admiring this livery when I went to Newcastle many years ago:
    9CAB99DD-265C-4C49-8065-AB69B8F986F1.png
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2022
    Matt37401, Johnme101, 2392 and 2 others like this.
  10. RLinkinS

    RLinkinS Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2008
    Messages:
    912
    Likes Received:
    928
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I have a soft spot for 1310[​IMG]

    Sent from my SM-A105FN using Tapatalk
     
  11. alexl102

    alexl102 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    448
    Likes Received:
    309
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I love Malachite. Lovely bright colour without losing the class that British liveries always had.
     
  12. clinker

    clinker Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2016
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    348
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    romford
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer


    I bow to Your superior knowledge
     
    paullad1984 likes this.
  13. bluetrain

    bluetrain Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2019
    Messages:
    1,326
    Likes Received:
    1,460
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wiltshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    An LCDR train must have looked fairly cheerless with its black engines and teak coaches. Wainwright made a big change there.

    The basic Brunswick green of Wainwright's loco livery was surely dignified enough, even if the lining was rather OTT. Arguably, the light green colours of the GNR and NER were more gaudy, particularly with the Fletcher-era NER lining.

    https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/910-ner-910-lner-910/
     
  14. 240P15

    240P15 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2017
    Messages:
    1,599
    Likes Received:
    1,589
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Norway
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Maybe the the most lovely decorated tank engine ever?:)
    (from an old postcard)


    [​IMG]

    Knut;)
     
  15. Richard Roper

    Richard Roper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    1,310
    Likes Received:
    1,355
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Librarian
    Location:
    Just up the road from 56E Sowerby Bridge
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Tartan Crampton.jpg

    I wonder how many people were dismayed when they found out the "Tartan Paint" joke wasn't a joke?!

    Richard.;)
     
    Bluenosejohn likes this.
  16. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,332
    Likes Received:
    11,667
    Occupation:
    Nosy aren’t you?
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Just try getting a quote from Williamsons for it! :)
     
  17. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    26,105
    Likes Received:
    57,438
    Location:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
  18. D1002

    D1002 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Messages:
    8,659
    Likes Received:
    6,415
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Enfield
    The worst livery ever?
    663B3BF6-CB9B-4359-B84C-CD9D17E7A883.png
     
    paullad1984 likes this.
  19. Dunfanaghy Road

    Dunfanaghy Road Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2019
    Messages:
    1,252
    Likes Received:
    1,566
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Alton, Hants
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Isn't that a Brighton Royal Train board at the top of the smokebox? Some lèse majesté by the stationmasters, perhaps? :eek::D
    Pat
     
  20. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,332
    Likes Received:
    11,667
    Occupation:
    Nosy aren’t you?
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    A certain lilac Light Pacific might run it close ;)
     
    35B and 240P15 like this.

Share This Page