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Those cut at Woodham's...

Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door 22A, 17 jan 2009.

  1. 22A

    22A Well-Known Member

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    In it's prime Dai Woodham's yard at Barry held 212 steam locos and most were bought by preservationists. I believe about 30 were cut though; anyone know which locos they were please?
     
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    Ah what might have been...however there were some lucky survivlrs....all those 53xx cut but 5322 survived
     
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    1367 1368 3170 3727 3794 3817 4156 4157 4164 4550 4559 4594 5182 5312 5345 5355 5360 5392 5397 5407 5417 5422 5504 5510 5514 5546 5547 5557 5558 5651 5669 5794 6115 6331 6334 6406 6621 6696 6753 7226 7702 7712 7719 7722 7723 7725 7758 8419 8473 8475 8479 8749 9436 9438 9439 9443 9445 9449 9459 9462 9468 9491 9492 9496 9499
    30512 30844 34045 34094 41248 41303 76080 80067 92085 92232
     
  5. ianh

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    Who is going to tell Denis......
     
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    Shame they cut the last surviving 54xx's & 3150.
     
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    9466 whoops #-o . Apologies to Mr Howells. List now corrected. Thanks ianh for pointing it out.
     
  8. 50002

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    Woodhams also scrapped 6 War Department 0-6-0ST and a few diesels including D600.

    Nearly all the locos scrapped by Woodhams were cut in the early years when there was virtually no preservation movement as we now know it. One engine which almost certainly would have been worth saving was 9499, which was less than 5 years old and had run less than 50000 miles when Woodhams scrapped it, probably even before it had received its first general works overhaul.

    By 1965 Woodhams had found that breaking up wagons and other rolling stock was simpler and more profitable than cutting up locos and that is why the 200+ engines lasted long enough to be saved.
     
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    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    How nice to see all that Swindon rubbish turned into razor blades. Pity about the spamcan though. :smt077
     
  10. Kerosene Castle

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    Yes, its presence sullied what would've otherwise been an impeccable batch of steel.
     
  11. williamfj2

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    Here we go again!
     
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    We should be thankful for the other 216(?) which are still around - the preservation movement could have used a few more of certain types of some of the above but to have saved these as well would have been overkill & would have diluted resources - probably the LEAST useful would have been yet more Bullied Pacifics!
     
  13. Martin Perry

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    The other significant losses being D600/1 and D6121 - especially considering that two of them lasted until 1980.
     
  14. arthur maunsell

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    hardly savable, did you ever see the state they were in by 1980?
     
  15. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Yes, I did have a climb over them in about 1978 - they would have been difficult restorations to say the least! - but not impossible, even if only as static exhibits. I would have thought that D601 at Swindon and D6121 at Bo'ness would have filled a couple of major gaps in the collections.
     
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    I see 92085 was cut up in 1980, the latest by a number of years.

    Anyone know if it was selected due to it being in the worst condition of those remaining, or did it just find itself at the end of the scrapline at the wrong time?
     
  17. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Wrong place, wrong time - 4156 went at the same time and 35025 was supposed to have been next in line, but more wagons arrived.
     
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    In the wrong place. Also the reservation on it had been dropped shortly before it went for the chop. Reputedly it was the best of the 9F's remaining at the time. 4156 was cut up the following week. 35025 was the next in line, but it was rescued in time.
     
  19. LMS2968

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    Dai kept his men busy cutting up wagons, which were easier to do than steam locos so more profitable. There was a reduction in wagons coming in at that time and these last engines were cut up primarily to keep the men busy.

    Although Dai is portrayed as a philanthropic quasi-railway enthusiast, he was basically a businessman who needed to return a profit. But he must at times have been sorely tried by the antics of some real enthusists - often committed in all naive innocence, but not always - so there must have been something in him that stopped him cutting all his engines and so providing the selection of locos we have today.
     
  20. andy999

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    Probably because he could get more money by selling the egnines as they were to preservationists, rather than the scrap value he got after paying for the man hours to cut them up?
     

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