If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Swanage Railway General Discussion

本贴由 Rumpole2012-10-10 发布. 版块名称: Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK

  1. buzby2

    buzby2 Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2009-03-26
    帖子:
    1,721
    支持:
    591
    所在地:
    Swanage
    Surely Business Rates are suspended by HM Government.
    I suspect the railway is in discussions with Swanage Town and Dorset Councils [the Landlords] as to reducing/waiving rental payments.
    No doubt there are other outgoings however [e.g. electricity for security lighting, CCTV, etc].
     
  2. Mogul

    Mogul Member

    注册日期:
    2016-02-02
    帖子:
    324
    支持:
    687
    性别:
    所在地:
    Dorset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Insurance, Wages for remaining skeleton staff, property rentals that can't be waved, legal and professional fees, contracts IT and office equipment, fundraising costs. Then you have to consider that when the lock down ends, the furlough scheme will end and the landlords and loco owners will be expecting their rental to restart but will there be any operating season left or customers willing to travel? All the costs of two winters but with no summer revenue to cover it.

    The crunch isn't so much during the crisis as after it and during the long winter that follows. This is going to be a marathon not a sprint,
     
    已获得D1039, D7076, johnofwessex另外3人的支持.
  3. 60044

    60044 Member

    注册日期:
    2016-02-24
    帖子:
    870
    支持:
    1,269
    性别:
    所在地:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    With the exception of the peak holiday weekends I'd be a bit surprised if most railways that run daily at this time year do much more than break even on weekdays. For most it is the peak summer months that are key and I have a feeling that by the end of June most should be running again - and I suspect that summer 2020 could be rather a good one for "staycationers".
     
  4. desperado

    desperado Member

    注册日期:
    2006-12-12
    帖子:
    217
    支持:
    90
    所在地:
    Brussels
    There's an article in the Telegraph this morning that suggests some form of social distancing may have to continue until there's a vaccine - so all of this year. How could social distancing be applied to a preserved railway?
     
  5. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

    注册日期:
    2013-09-09
    帖子:
    10,708
    支持:
    18,815
    性别:
    所在地:
    Cheltenham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Be that as it may, not running at all can't really be classed as breaking even either as there is still expenses to be paid, not just the obvious tangible ones but also things like rolling stock still slowly rusting away. I'm really not sure about how soon heritage railways will be able to re-open. Bearing in mind they were one of the first things to close, it's hard to see how they can be anything but last to re-open.
     
    已获得johnofwessex的支持.
  6. biggles200

    biggles200 Member

    注册日期:
    2007-07-02
    帖子:
    328
    支持:
    237
    职业:
    retired and holding on
    所在地:
    Purbeck
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    With vacines possibly a year away and natural immunity 2 years away, I think that you may find that the worst scenario could be losing two summers as we enter the unknown. I know that sounds like doom and gloom, but to survive, worst case scenarios must be planned for. Lets hope that it is just this summer. Ultra violet light will kill off some of the virus this summer and things will improve, but without a vaccine, it will be back next year.
     
    Last edited: 2020-04-11
    已获得Daddsie71b的支持.
  7. oliversbest

    oliversbest Member

    注册日期:
    2011-06-14
    帖子:
    814
    支持:
    121
    One shouldn't take pleasure at others misfortunes but reading the WSR entries on this site is far,far better than any Soap Opera. With that in mind it behooves the rest of the HR to maintain organisation.objectives and yes, financial equilibrium as far as possible.
    Unfortunately most of us can only contribute to a limited amount of appeals so I would think that in the case of the SR the S.O.S appeal must be the one at the top of the list . I know the SRT was about to update its operational model,perhaps we are fortunate that at the moment the older one is serving its purpose and keeping us afloat(we trust!!)
     
    已获得Sunnieboy的支持.
  8. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

    注册日期:
    2015-10-02
    帖子:
    8,201
    支持:
    6,872
    性别:
    所在地:
    Swanage
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I admire your optimistic view, but do not agree with it. I can not see myself for example travelling in a MK1 on an HR or the mainline (or any train on NR to be honest) until such time as a valid test is available to prove if I have had it or not, and what percentage of the population has suffered from it and has (apparently) some form of immunity.
    General consensus says social distancing will be with us for some time and that is difficult to do on any form of transport.
     
    已获得45076的支持.
  9. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    注册日期:
    2006-10-07
    帖子:
    12,831
    支持:
    12,038
    职业:
    Gentleman of leisure, nowadays
    所在地:
    Near Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm inclined to agree with you. By the time July comes around we may have a bit more freedom in what we can do but I can't see life being back to normal in any way. I hope both you and I are proved wrong, though.
     
    已获得Swan Age, Sunnieboy, 2392另外1人的支持.
  10. Mogul

    Mogul Member

    注册日期:
    2016-02-02
    帖子:
    324
    支持:
    687
    性别:
    所在地:
    Dorset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Sorry to keep banging on about this but this couldn't be further from the truth. Swanage would have expected to have taken Hundreds of thousands of pounds in revenue by this point. Just saving coal used doesn't really replace that lost revenue which should be starting to pay back all the costs sustained over a winter. The larger railways have a substantial level of fixed costs which are there whether we run or not.
    There are two main markets for passengers. Families and Retired with the majority of hard core enthusaists falling in to the latter. The family market is likely to be affected by the recession that will inevitably follow this. The retired market is impacted less financially but the risk of virus exposure will keep confidence low here to. The subsidiary foreign visitor market is likely to be non existent and if the lockdown is lifted by Aug I would put money on the school holidays being cancelled on the grounds of enough education being missed already and working parents needing to be freed up to help the economy recover.

    I'm afraid it's necessary to plan for the worst (whilst hoping for the best). This is going to cause significant and permanent change to the Heritage Railway landscape. That's why if you value what Swanage Railway does (insert railway of choice) you need to dig deep.
    The appeal isn't named Save our Service for nothing https://saveourservice.co.uk/
     
    Last edited: 2020-04-11
    已获得Daddsie71b, gz3xzf, Sunnieboy另外1人的支持.
  11. Daddsie71b

    Daddsie71b Member Friend

    注册日期:
    2013-04-04
    帖子:
    960
    支持:
    810
    性别:
    所在地:
    34091
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Picking up on Nicks comment about the larger railways, these I fear are the ones most at risk. Those that have no staff, minor facilities and one engine hired in, have a greater chance of bouncing back. Donations to https://saveourservice.co.uk/ or your favorite railway big boy (did you see what I did there) are needed.
     
    已获得Sunnieboy的支持.
  12. Josh Voce

    Josh Voce New Member

    注册日期:
    2018-10-18
    帖子:
    72
    支持:
    239
    性别:
    所在地:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The second in our series of S.O.S appeal videos focuses on one of our volunteer firemen Alex, who discusses what the railway means to him and why its so important to keep the railway going. We hope you enjoy the video and please consider donating to our Save Our Service appeal. Many thanks.

    https://www.facebook.com/451807091534527/posts/2792184480830098/
     
    已获得Sunnieboy的支持.
  13. buzby2

    buzby2 Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2009-03-26
    帖子:
    1,721
    支持:
    591
    所在地:
    Swanage
    Yes, it is: http://www.tt.rhrp.org.uk/ts/turnInfo.asp?Ref=8
    It's various dismantled parts are still on wagons but no longer at Norden sidings - mainly due to (currently mothballed) carriage shed construction works.
     
    已获得Daddsie71b的支持.
  14. gz3xzf

    gz3xzf Member

    注册日期:
    2006-07-22
    帖子:
    319
    支持:
    77
    性别:
    职业:
    Retired
    所在地:
    21C142
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    For anybody who doesn't do FB, the video has also been put up on YouTube: -
     
    已获得Sunnieboynine elms fan的支持.
  15. nine elms fan

    nine elms fan Part of the furniture

    注册日期:
    2012-09-18
    帖子:
    2,439
    支持:
    855
    性别:
    职业:
    Retired
    所在地:
    Wessex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Ah that's better.
     
  16. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    注册日期:
    2009-04-16
    帖子:
    9,006
    支持:
    5,927
    Sorry, yet another video that I am put off watching because of the stupid music. If they saved themselves the bother of adding the music I would have watched and might possibly have felt inclined to donate.
     
  17. steamvideosnet

    steamvideosnet Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2011-04-12
    帖子:
    1,968
    支持:
    2,476
    性别:
    所在地:
    Southampton, UK
    So a major heritage railway is in danger of closing, they’re asking for help and you’re worried about a small amount of quiet music in the background. Might I recommend something called perspective?

    James
     
    已获得Mogul, KristianGWR, Sunnieboy另外7人的支持.
  18. Josh Voce

    Josh Voce New Member

    注册日期:
    2018-10-18
    帖子:
    72
    支持:
    239
    性别:
    所在地:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Our Facebook watch party event takes place at 19.30 on the Swanage Railways Facebook page, as part of our SOS appeal.
    Step on board Stanier black 5 44871 for a journey on the footplate from Norden to Swanage.

    We hope you enjoy the footage. https://www.facebook.com/swanagerailway/?epa=SEARCH_BOX

    Hopefully the footage will be made available on other sites at later date but I cannot confirm at this stage.

    ps: there is no music in this one...………. watch party.jpg
     
    Last edited: 2020-04-18
    已获得Morris_madgz3xzfSunnieboy的支持.
  19. steamvideosnet

    steamvideosnet Well-Known Member

    注册日期:
    2011-04-12
    帖子:
    1,968
    支持:
    2,476
    性别:
    所在地:
    Southampton, UK
    Thank god there’s no music. I was going to write an angry letter to the Daily Mail immediately if there was music, and I wouldn’t have cared if they didn’t read it. And I DEFINITELY wouldn’t have donated!

    James
     
    已获得MogulKristianGWRSunnieboy的支持.
  20. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    注册日期:
    2009-04-16
    帖子:
    9,006
    支持:
    5,927
    I'm not "worried" about it: I find it distracting and annoying. And it's not "quiet": it's about the same loudness as the loco exhaust.
    If they wish to be considered as recipients of my money they should refrain from annoying me; which would also save themselves the (admittedly small) amount of effort of inserting the music.
     

分享此页面