If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

2999: Lady of Legend

Dieses Thema im Forum 'Steam Traction' wurde von Ian White gestartet, 31 Oktober 2017.

  1. Jimc

    Jimc Part of the furniture

    Registriert seit:
    8 September 2005
    Beiträge:
    4.117
    Zustimmungen:
    4.821
    Beruf:
    Once computers, now part time writer I suppose.
    Ort:
    SE England
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I suppose you'd have to ask a driver from the days of unfitted freight whether it was more advantageous to be able to reverse the locomotive without umpteen turns on the screw.
     
  2. Mr Valentine

    Mr Valentine Member

    Registriert seit:
    9 März 2018
    Beiträge:
    238
    Zustimmungen:
    834
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    This is only really an issue when you have a slide valve engine with a pole reverser.
     
  3. Andy Williams

    Andy Williams Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    23 April 2010
    Beiträge:
    1.042
    Zustimmungen:
    1.072
    Beruf:
    Design Engineer
    Ort:
    Shropshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    If the locomotive is fitted with piston valves, then movement of the lever is not a problem whilst 'under steam'. On locos such as 57xx pannier tanks which have slide valves, it is normal practice to shut the regulator before adjusting cut-off, as otherwise you would be fighting against the force of the steam against one side of the slide valve. On piston valves the forces are equalised, making them much easier to move than a slide valve when the regulator is open. If you have a lot of shunting to do, then a lever reverse is a godsend.

    There were some hybrid reversers which had a lever that engaged in an elliptical shaped screw which could also be actuated via a hand-wheel. These combined the ease of reversing via the lever with the ability to make small adjustments to the cut-off by means of the hand-wheel.

    Andy
     
    jnc gefällt dies.
  4. RLinkinS

    RLinkinS Member

    Registriert seit:
    8 November 2008
    Beiträge:
    984
    Zustimmungen:
    973
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I believe the North Eastern M1 class in the national collection has a combined screw and lever; the screw is barrel shaped. The RHDR locos have a combined screw and lever but this type is fitted with half nuts similar to those on a lathe leadscrew.
     
  5. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    8 März 2008
    Beiträge:
    28.054
    Zustimmungen:
    65.703
    Ort:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    ... as is a nice Stirling Steam reverser, which was already long-established tried and tested technology by Churchward’s day and has the secondary advantage of leaving the cab nicely uncluttered of bulky machinery!

    Tom
     
    andrewshimmin und Johnb gefällt dies.
  6. Johnb

    Johnb Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    3 Dezember 2014
    Beiträge:
    15.694
    Zustimmungen:
    18.667
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Beruf:
    Retired, best job I've ever had
    Ort:
    Buckinghamshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Thanks for the info, I didn’t know there was a difference but I suppose it’s obvious on thinking about it
     
  7. Steve

    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Registriert seit:
    7 Oktober 2006
    Beiträge:
    12.831
    Zustimmungen:
    12.039
    Beruf:
    Gentleman of leisure, nowadays
    Ort:
    Near Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    My experience of driving GW locos is limited but I found that with piston valve lever reversers you could actually hold the lever/pole where you wanted and didn't need to drop it into one of the notches so you could finesse the cut-off if you really wanted to.
    That'll be the Booch(sp?) Barrel reverser
     
  8. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Registriert seit:
    16 April 2009
    Beiträge:
    9.006
    Zustimmungen:
    5.927
    On the LMS 2P 4-4-0 thread
    Is this true?
     
  9. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    12 Mai 2006
    Beiträge:
    19.346
    Zustimmungen:
    17.834
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Only a GWS member so no insider info, however this does not reflect what has been said previously?
     
  10. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Registriert seit:
    16 April 2009
    Beiträge:
    9.006
    Zustimmungen:
    5.927
    I am sure they've said it's not going main line, and of course getting anything in and out of Didcot is non-trivial, but it will be a great shame if it can never run anywhere else.
     
  11. misspentyouth62

    misspentyouth62 Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    8 November 2017
    Beiträge:
    1.796
    Zustimmungen:
    2.361
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    34D, now flexible
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I had thought that 2999 was going to remain at GWS for it's first year and then get loaned out? Early days for 2020 so who knows if there are any plans for galas and visits planned for later in the year?
     
    240P15 und Gav106 gefällt dies.
  12. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    12 Mai 2006
    Beiträge:
    19.346
    Zustimmungen:
    17.834
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    That was my understanding also.
     
  13. 2392

    2392 Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    7 Juni 2010
    Beiträge:
    1.902
    Zustimmungen:
    1.148
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Felling on Tyne
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Mine too. Iron out the glitches first, if any. Before going on tour up and down the land, save getting egg on their faces if things do go wrong. Granted they still could if the loco is let loose on a longer stretch of line....... As has also been mentioned they aren't going "mainline" as such, though do I understand have arrangements in place to allow their stock to be "tripped" to the nearest rail yard with road access, or so I believe.
     
    jnc gefällt dies.
  14. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    12 Mai 2006
    Beiträge:
    19.346
    Zustimmungen:
    17.834
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I suspect it is more to do with ensuring that they get the income from the wow factor for the first 12 months or so as well.

    DBC do the tripping to West Yard.
     
    Mr Valentine, LesterBrown und 2392 gefällt dies.
  15. GWR4707

    GWR4707 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    12 Mai 2006
    Beiträge:
    19.346
    Zustimmungen:
    17.834
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Cumbria
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    She's off to the SVR for their gala between the 16th and 19th April 2020.

    First real chance to stretch her legs!
     
  16. 60044

    60044 Member

    Registriert seit:
    24 Februar 2016
    Beiträge:
    870
    Zustimmungen:
    1.269
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Be patient, the SVR appearance is just the first, I'm led to believe......
     
    Johnme101 und Kinghambranch gefällt dies.
  17. 1472

    1472 Well-Known Member

    Registriert seit:
    26 August 2008
    Beiträge:
    1.965
    Zustimmungen:
    2.664
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Perhaps but the SVR visit offers a rare (only?) chance to pair this loco with appropriate passenger stock on a heritage line.
     
  18. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    25 August 2007
    Beiträge:
    35.937
    Zustimmungen:
    22.469
    Beruf:
    Training moles
    Ort:
    The back of beyond
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Are you suggesting that GJC missed a trick? :)
     
    jnc gefällt dies.
  19. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Nat Pres stalwart

    Registriert seit:
    8 Juni 2014
    Beiträge:
    15.554
    Zustimmungen:
    11.961
    Ort:
    Wnxx
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I'be always said that this one would look right at home at Bewdley or Arley on a spring/summers evening with the top lights!
     
    Last edited: 13 Februar 2020
    Johnme101 und Gav106 gefällt dies.
  20. 60044

    60044 Member

    Registriert seit:
    24 Februar 2016
    Beiträge:
    870
    Zustimmungen:
    1.269
    Geschlecht:
    männlich
    Ort:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Nice I agree, but it's not a consideration that seems to bother most people most of the time!
     

Die Seite empfehlen