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North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by The Black Hat, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. 30854

    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

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    As a rule, yes .... but there are the odd exceptions e.g. if it/they're kit that's been lying around, waiting it's turn for a slot in the workshop which, for one reason or another, never seems to come and are moving to be rehoused somewhere that will fully restore them and cherish them, most especially if the new home happens to be more geographically or historically appropriate. Then, I reckon, it's no bad thing.
     
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    Where does the claimed statement from the NYMR regarding the departed coaches <<the NYMR Management "could see no further use for them"....">> actually come from ?
    The coach group statement seems to contradict this alleged management position.
     
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    But the NYMR are about to start constructing a big new carriage shed which they could probably be in within a year, the Ecclesbourne Valley have no such facility and aren't likely to for some time to come.
     
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    The coach group are being diplomatic. If it was just a case of waiting their turn then I think the owner would wait for the new carriage shed was ready to store them till their turn arrived. I believe he's been told that their turn was unlikely to come in the foreseeable future because they haven't got high seating capacity and as he wants to see them used they've moved elsewhere. tbh the Ryedale Saloon isn't a loss as it needs (and has for years) major structural repairs that should have been done when it was first restored but weren't, but the GN saloon is a very special vehicle and is nowhere near as bad (and had a lot of work done a year or two back.
     
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    But when you don't have the resources to restore them doesn't keeping them effectively contribute to the linear scrapyard that you so much dislike?
     
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    Very likely wrong but it has an air of each party regarding maintenance as the other's responsibility.
     
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    Not the case, the LNERCA and NYMR have agreed that the LNERCA will maintain the bodywork and interiors going forward, but just as this agreement is being put in place, several coaches, after years of use, are now in need of attention and a small group of volunteers simply can't cope with all of them at this time (and I'm willing to bet little or no payment for the wear and tear incurred since they entered traffic). Rightly or wrongly the focus is on the ones of greatest use to the NYMR.
     
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    I think part of the real pang (for me at least) is the apparent reversal of what has been achieved at NYMR. The teak set was up to (7!? I think) at one point and now seems set to be back down to about 3. And the choice of destination also seems odd to me. I have nothing at all against the good folks at Ecclesbourne and I'm sure they will be well looked after. However I would rather have seen them at a line with some LNER pedigree or with the ambitions (or even potential) to form a teak set of their own. For example SVR, Stainmore, NNR or GCR among others.
     
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    The people at Ecclesbourne seem to be ambitious and enthusiastic. I doubt whether most of the other locations you mention would want more teak coaches, for the same reason as the NYMR. The GCR is stuck with a 1950s mindset to boot.
     
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    with the ambitions (or even potential) to form a teak set of their own. For example SVR

    The SVR already has a teak set consisting of 8 coaches - all in running order.
     
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    You may be right with some on that list. However NNR are actively working on a teak set - as seen on the NNR thread on here. I agree re GCR and their 1950s mindset, but RVP at Rothley has restored two varnished teak coaches to operating condition with a third in the works. The GCR doesn't suffer (!?) from such heavy passenger loading as NYMR or SVR so this doesn't seem to be a concern. And I think given the predisposition at Stainmore for all things NER and LNER they'd jump at the chance of two additional serviceable teaks.
    My reservation with Ecclesbourne was nothing at all to do with their enthusiasm, merely their context. As far as I am aware there are no other teaks on the railway, nor any LNER locomotives. Even if both teaks are permanently kept in prime condition they will be just that - two teaks - not a rake.
     
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    At the SVR we can in theory make a 9 coach teak set with the inclusion of our restaurant composite, 7960. We can however only run a 7 coach train at the moment as 2 of the main set have been red carded for works.


    People may look at Gresleys and think they are fragile coaches being all timber and would suffer with high loadings. Gresleys are in fact a very resilient coach. They can act like a fridge in winter as they take an age to warm up but through experience. We have very little issues with them. Even on our previous santa operation when we had upto and over 400 people crammed into the coaches.

    It is a shame to see the teaks drifting away from NYMR. They looked the DBs behind 1264 and chanhged the landscape of mark 1s.
     
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    Changing the subject: does anyone have a contact email address for NYMR membership issues?

    All I could find on the website was a contact form. I tried to use it to inform them about the death of a life member but my message seems to have been ignored, as his copies of Moors Line are apparently still arriving.
     
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    Membership Secretary Colin Graham C/O 12 Park Street, Pickering YO187AJ should do the trick I'm afraid I don't have an email address
     
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    Thanks both
     
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    For anyone in the York Area next week, we are into the winter meeting season.
    Monday evenings at 19.30 dates and subjects below.

    No need to be a member and open to the public.


    The next meeting of the 2019/20 season will take place on Monday 16th December at 7.30 pm
    when Geof Dickson will give a presentation on “British Municipal Buses”.

    YAG meetings usually commence at 7.30 pm (the venue will be open from 7 pm) with the exception of the AGM. Meetings are held in New Earswick Sports & Social Club, White Rose Avenue, New Earswick, York, YO32 4AG. There is a large car park near the venue and bar facilities are available inside the building (both hot and cold drinks are available).

    For those of you wishing to come via public transport the nearest bus stop is just outside New Earswick Folk Hall. The venue is about 5 or 10 minute’s brisk walk from there.

    Entrance to the meetings is at a very reasonable charge of £2 for all attendees.

    The YAG will have their sales stand at the meetings for you to purchase second hand books, DVDs and VHS videos. There is usually a raffle held during the evening to help raise funds for YAG projects on the NYMR.

    Forthcoming meetings for the rest of the 2019/20 season:

    2020

    Monday 20th January 7.30 p.m. New Earswick Thomas Bouch's Tay Bridge by Bill Jagger

    Monday 17th February 7.30 p.m. New Earswick An Evening with Chris Price, NYMR General Manager

    Monday 16th March 7.30 p.m. New Earswick A Railwayman for all Seasons by Philip Benham

    Monday 20th April 7.30 p.m. New Earswick The Industrial Railways of York by Steve Plowman preceeded at 7 pm by group AGM
     
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    For those that are following, one of the major Lottery funded projects. That of the replaced of Bridge 27 at Goathland The following YouTube feature shows the new bridge being delivered "flat pack" from Cleveland Bridge to the Moors. The bridge has been test assembled at Cleveland Bridge before being disassembled for transport.

     
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    As a couple of follow up shorts from the 'Tube. These show the Volker Rail cranes being delivered and bridge 27 being moved to the MPD at Grosmont.....



     
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    Nice videos. But ...
    I'm sure the driver was over the moon at having a flash set off in front of him - Not!
    Pat
     
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